<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>June 7, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Dear SW List and Charles!</DIV><DIV>There are many weird signs entered into the US SignPuddle! And I do not know the source, if the person who was the source, does not write who they are!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I have started the big job of trying to fix 10 signs a day, in the US SignPuddle...but there are a lot of signs and I hadn't gotten to that one yet! I am not an expert on ASL, so I am not making decisions for the language...I am changing the Graphics Only entries, to SWML. And as i do that, I try to improve the SignWriting as I am going along...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So I agree. I don't believe these examples you show me are correct, Charles. If you are an editor of the ASL dictionary, you can change them yourself. Would you like to be an Editor?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>---------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Charles Butler wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>Query, Valerie, what is the source of the sign "Prophecy" in the ASL sign puddle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the sign for Prophesy (the verb) has the orientation of the non-dominant flat plane hand with the palm down. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt="prophesy" src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/prophesy.png" align="middle" border="0"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The sign for "prophecy" (the noun) has the orientation of the non-dominant flat plane hand apparently with the palm up, an awkward position at best. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt="prophecy" src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/prophecy.png" align="middle" border="0"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is this really the sign for prophecy? It does not seem to match the sign in Lottie Riekehoff's "Joy of Signing" where the palm is clearly facing "down," not "up,"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Interestingly enough, following that book, the orientation of the moving hand actually does a flip.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt="prophesy_2" src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/prophesy_2.png" align="middle" border="0"></DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <<A href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>June 6, 2005<BR><BR>Hello Sergio!<BR>I prefer your first writing. Yes. We mix two planes within one sign <BR>all the time. I believe the first one is better, because the symbols <BR>are less complex. There may be others who disagree, <BR>though..smile...So you can technically write it either way and it is <BR>correct.... Val ;-)<BR><BR>----------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Sergio wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear SW List,<BR>><BR>> I want ask to you if can I mixing two plane or point of view in a <BR>> Sign. Example:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR> Or the rule say that I need make it in the same plane, example:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR> What is better ?<BR>><BR>> Thank you,<BR>><BR>> Sergio Ribeiro<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>