<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>June 15, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV> </DIV></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Charles Butler wrote:<DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">I can understand you wanting the take out the</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">movement, but isn't that the whole point of sign</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">writing, to show the movement, not just the hands, to</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">be able to show "precisely" how a movement is</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">accomplished, by a wrist flex, rather than through an</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">arm movement.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Monaco" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Monaco"> <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">--------------</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">Charles and Everyone -</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">There are many reasons to use SignWriting. Sometimes it is for accuracy, but other times it is for quick writing, assuming a lot of knowledge. So there are times when we write without Movement Arrows...and many of those writings are really easy to read...For example, the ASL sign for COOK, and a simple spelling of BOOK...Nothing wrong with simplified spellings...but it does not mean the detailed is wrong either...just a choice...</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco">What's more, in version 8 in the attached diagram, there is a double movement, but not with arrows, but with double-pressing action, which is a form of movement in its own right, just as double-touch would be a movement, without arrows...</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN><IMG src="cid:92BDDE52-3637-4357-AF3C-17F3B9F8813C@local"></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco"></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>