<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV style=""></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">SignWriting List</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">June 23, 2005</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><A href="mailto:Harmonalbert@AOL.COM">Harmonalbert@AOL.COM</A> wrote:</DIV><DIV style=""><DIV style="">Do you have a downloadable version of your Sign Maker program?? I downloaded a copy of your Signwriting program, but it doesn't work to create signs, it works only to copy signs from the dictionary into a document.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Val answers:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Jerry!</DIV><DIV>If you go to our downloads page:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>SignWriting Downloads</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.SignWriting.org/downloads">http://www.SignWriting.org/downloads</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>you will find a lot of programs! SignWriter DOS, Java, Tiger and Python are all typing programs for complete documents typed in SignWriting...SignBank is a dictionary database with the SymbolBank database there too...SW Edit is not my program. It was developed in Brazil...but you can download it from that web page....so there are many to choose from!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>SignMaker is a part of SignPuddle, and is a web-based program developed by Steve Slevinski...So Steve?...If you have anything that is downloadable I will be happy to link to it, in our downloads web page...;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But Jerry, I believe at this time, SignMaker is only for the web...And your description of the program above, in your question, must be referring to SignBank? have you tried SignWriter? It is the best for really typing SignWriting and is used all over the world...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">I found one thing that does seem to work like your sign maker BUT, I don't speak Spanish. it is your SW-Edit program. also, that SW program could use more handshapes (unless I don't know how to get to them all). Could you ask the programmer to translate the commands into English, or send me the translations in an E-mail so that I can work with the program???</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>SW Edit is in Portuguese, from Brazil. And it is not being further developed, so there is no programmer to turn to. However, I believe there is a way to switch to English in the program...I will check that...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">Even though I am in college to learn interpreting, I do plan to learn what signs you need in your puddle and contribute some whenever I can. BUT, it would be easier for me if I could work off-line then send my feeble efforts to the sign puddle.(only one phone line, and my wife likes to have access).</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Right. SignPuddle really needs broadband. So if you ever get broadband you will have a better experience.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">Also, how do you incorporate "mouth morphemes" (CHA, PO, PAH, etc.) into your signwriting system??</DIV><DIV style="">All told(according to a videotape I have on the subject) there are 54 of these morphemes and some of them require the tongue to move rapidly either up&down or L&R in order to get the proper meaning.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>This is a different subject and I can answer that later today...<DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style=""> </DIV><DIV style="">Lastly, I have Internet explorer on my machine, BUT, I also have Firefox as an alternate browser. Would this create a problem? I have noticed that when I try to get onto your Sign Maker program to practice a little bit, I can't get on. </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV>It is best that you use Firefox. It is faster and SignPuddle was designed for Firefox...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for your interest and questions, Jerry!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Val ;-)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Valerie Sutton</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org">Sutton@SignWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1. SignWritingSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.SignWriting.org">http://www.SignWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Read & Write Sign Languages</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2. SignBankSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.SignBank.org">http://www.SignBank.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sign Language Dictionaries</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3. DanceWritingSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.DanceWriting.org">http://www.DanceWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Read & Write Dance</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">4. MovementWritingSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.MovementWriting.org">http://www.MovementWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Read & Write Movement & Gesture</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">5. SymbolBank On The Web</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">www.MovementWriting.org/symbolbank</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Archive For All Symbols</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Deaf Action Committee for SignWriting</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Center For Sutton Movement Writing</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">an educational nonprofit organization</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038-0517, USA</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">tel: 858-456-0098....fax: 858-456-0020</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV style=""><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>