<DIV>Stephan and others,</DIV>
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<DIV>Some other signs with double motion to indicate "over time" or "duration".</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/clean-over-time.png">CLEAN OVER TIME (ASL SignPuddle)</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/wait_2.png">WAIT_2 </DIV>
<DIV>Wait for quite a while (one could add an exasperated facial expression <IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/15.gif">)</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG alt=fly-on-and-on src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/fly-on-and-on.png" align=middle border=0> FLY ON AND ON</DIV>
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<DIV>Here's one you asked about, showing careful writing to show forward, tense, slow motion, and back arc under relaxed. It was a challenge to write. </DIV>
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<DIV>Tongue flicks like (roubarse - to have been robbed) in Brazilian Sign Language (Libras)</DIV>
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<DIV><IMG alt=roubarse src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/dict/sl/roubarse.png" align=middle border=0> ROUBARSE (eyes and tongue flick from side to side). </DIV>
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<DIV>The Tongue flicks are 03-07-001-01-01-01 in IMWA (first position). </DIV>
<DIV>I've merged the tongue flicks with eye motion (so it's actually double-layers of heads).</DIV>
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<DIV>Hope these help. It's always fun to rise to a challenge.</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles Butler</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>1) The Brazilian sign language sign for "I've been robbed" (se roubar) is entirely a tongue flick. The tongues are located in the fourth column. Sign Bank seems to have developed a glitch so I can't pull it up.</DIV>
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<DIV>2) Elliptical circle that repeats. Most of the circles have single or double motion on them. Here is the sign for "continue indefinitely". <IMG alt=continue-indefinitely src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/continue-indefinitely.png" align=middle border=0> </DIV>
<DIV>The both-hands arrow on the circle indicates indefinitely repeated motion. </DIV>
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<DIV>Most of the ellipsis in the IMWA have single and double motion variants.</DIV>
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<DIV>3) I created "flew on and on" (like in some story) to show fast forward and then relaxed return to give you how I would write it. I'd write the forward motion with a "tense" marker and then the back and under loop with a "loose" marker" if you wanted to write detail. One could leave off the "loose" marker. Almost every sign with a double-forward has a scarcely detectable backward loop which can be brought out for emphasis if one slows the sign down for storytelling.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hope this works for you. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Stuart Thiessen <sw@PASSITONSERVICES.ORG></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I was doing some work for one of my classes and I realized I wasn't <BR>sure how to write some movement changes on some of the verbs and some <BR>mouth movements.<BR><BR>1) How do you write tongue movements like flicks and so forth?<BR><BR>2) ASL has 2 "circular" motions that are not available in the IMWA at <BR>this time. One is an elliptical circle that repeats. It is used to <BR>change the verb to continuous aspect. The other is an "upside-down D" <BR>shape. It represents a tense production of the sign and then a slow <BR>return to the onset of the sign. So for signs that move outward, it <BR>forms a "D" shape with the straight portion of the D being the floor <BR>plane and the curved portion going under the floor. Am I right that we <BR>don't have this, or what combination of existing symbols would be best <BR>for these?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOT!
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