<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>August 4, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Hope, and Everyone -</DIV><DIV>Thank you for telling me that your files are in SignWriter DOS. I suggest that you continue to use SignWriter DOS, since you do not have a steady and reliable internet connection. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You need to access the internet to use SignPuddle. There is a way to download a portion of SignPuddle, called SignText, but I personally have never used it off the internet, since SignPuddle was made for the internet...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So when the day comes, that you have fast and reliable internet service, you can use SignPuddle...I know you will enjoy it and be amazed how easy it is to use...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Until that time, let me help you use SignWriter DOS...Did you have problems with the software? I cannot remember...Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Aug 4, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Hope Hurlbut wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Geneva; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">Dear Valerie,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">Yes, I am still using the old DOS program (4.4 isn't it?). </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">How do I attach files from DOS to an e-mail? It would be wonderful if they could be put into another program. Thank you for offering to do that.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">In a couple of days I am going to an immersion program in ASL (strictly no speaking!!). After that I will be away in the USA for about 10 days, but will be taking my computer with me. </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">My friend in Baton Rouge is a computer nerd, so can help me with getting going working on the files, if only they could be attached to an e-mail to you, and entered into SignPuddle.,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">As I told you before I have a problem with using the internet too much, as I am using my niece's phone line. (She is away just now.) Do I have to do all my work in SignPuddle on-line? There is only one line in this house, so I don't think that would work out. I will only be here for a couple of more months, so cannot have another line put in.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">Sincerely,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; ">Hope</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">----- Original Message -----</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN><A title="sutton@signwriting.org" href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">Valerie Sutton</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN><A title="SW-L@MAJORDOMO.VALENCIACC.EDU" href="mailto:SW-L@MAJORDOMO.VALENCIACC.EDU"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">SIGNWRITING List</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN><A title="hope_hurlbut@sil.org" href="mailto:hope_hurlbut@sil.org"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">Hurlbut Hope</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> ; </SPAN><A title="wayne@mrlanguage.com" href="mailto:wayne@mrlanguage.com"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">Smith Wayne</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:30 PM</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Re: TAIWAN Sign Language Dictionary Online</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Geneva; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT-VARIANT: normal; khtml-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; khtml-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>SignWriting List</DIV><DIV>August 4, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000dd"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">Message from Hope Hurlbut, August 4, 2005</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 221); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">I took a look at the site for Taiwan SIgn Language that you supplied. My Chinese is not good enough to put in the romanized Chinese, especially as my dictionary is far away (in Malaysia)!!</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 221); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">I already have two files (one full, the other almost full) of the forms in Taiwan Sign Language that I have input so far. Can I transfer or copy these files to SignPuddle?</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 221); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">I give each word the corresponding number to my original word list, then the ENglish gloss, then all the different forms that are in the dictionary (up to 10 or 12 per ENglish gloss). Some of the Deaf gave me up to 3 alternate signs for one word in Chinese.</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 221); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">Can I also transfer the existing dictionary into SIgnPuddle?</SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 221); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 221); ">I forgot to bring any of my SignWriter materials with me Canada, so I have no resources here! I had to make up my own charts before I started to do the inputting a couple of weeks ago. It is not easy to remember which alphabetic or numeric key contains which symbol, so I had to go through them one by one, and write them down for reference!</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV>--------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Hope!</DIV><DIV>Thanks for this message. You mention two files above. What computer program are the two files written in? Are they SignWriter DOS files? SignWriter Java files? I need to know what the format is for the files. Can you send the two files to me, attached to an email message?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Although I am pretty sure you cannot automatically transfer the dictionary into SignPuddle, I believe I could convert all the signs into PNGs with another program, if your dictionary is in SignWriter DOS...and then we might be able to put them into SignPuddle for you...so at least you do not have to re-enter all those signs..it would be nice to have some signs in the Taiwan SignPuddle!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Taiwan SignPuddle</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle/sgn-TW"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle/sgn-TW</SPAN></A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So please write again to tell me what program you are using...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Plus, you could try to add the new signs into SignPuddle...when you feel ready, I will be glad to teach you how to do that...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Val ;-)</DIV><DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 19px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Geneva"><BR></DIV><DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 19px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Geneva"><BR></DIV><DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 19px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Geneva"><BR></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Valerie Sutton</DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><A href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">Sutton@SignWriting.org</SPAN></A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 19px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Geneva"><BR></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">1. SignWritingSite</DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><A href="http://www.SignWriting.org"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">http://www.SignWriting.org</SPAN></A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Read & Write Sign Languages</DIV><DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 19px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Geneva"><BR></DIV><DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">2. 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