<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -khtml-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -khtml-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>SignWriting List</DIV><DIV>August 4, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Message from Hope Hurlbut, August 4, 2005</FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I took a look at the site for Taiwan SIgn Language that you supplied. My Chinese is not good enough to put in the romanized Chinese, especially as my dictionary is far away (in Malaysia)!!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I already have two files (one full, the other almost full) of the forms in Taiwan Sign Language that I have input so far. Can I transfer or copy these files to SignPuddle?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I give each word the corresponding number to my original word list, then the ENglish gloss, then all the different forms that are in the dictionary (up to 10 or 12 per ENglish gloss). Some of the Deaf gave me up to 3 alternate signs for one word in Chinese.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Can I also transfer the existing dictionary into SIgnPuddle?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I forgot to bring any of my SignWriter materials with me Canada, so I have no resources here! I had to make up my own charts before I started to do the inputting a couple of weeks ago. It is not easy to remember which alphabetic or numeric key contains which symbol, so I had to go through them one by one, and write them down for reference!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV>--------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Hope!</DIV><DIV>Thanks for this message. You mention two files above. What computer program are the two files written in? Are they SignWriter DOS files? SignWriter Java files? I need to know what the format is for the files. Can you send the two files to me, attached to an email message?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Although I am pretty sure you cannot automatically transfer the dictionary into SignPuddle, I believe I could convert all the signs into PNGs with another program, if your dictionary is in SignWriter DOS...and then we might be able to put them into SignPuddle for you...so at least you do not have to re-enter all those signs..it would be nice to have some signs in the Taiwan SignPuddle!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Taiwan SignPuddle</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle/sgn-TW">http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle/sgn-TW</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So please write again to tell me what program you are using...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Plus, you could try to add the new signs into SignPuddle...when you feel ready, I will be glad to teach you how to do that...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Val ;-)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Valerie Sutton</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="mailto:Sutton@SignWriting.org">Sutton@SignWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1. SignWritingSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.SignWriting.org">http://www.SignWriting.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Read & Write Sign Languages</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Geneva; min-height: 19px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2. SignBankSite</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.SignBank.org">http://www.SignBank.org</A></SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sign Language Dictionaries</DIV></BODY></HTML>