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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Nana, Valerie and
listmembers, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>well there is another
sign (smile) – again a wrist movement symbol – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When we asked people for
name signs of the country they come from we met somebody from the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Philippines</st1:place></st1:country-region>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>She showed us a pretty
different sign from what you included in your SignPuddle . <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am curious – what
kind of movement do you perform with your right hand, if you sign the sign for
the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Philippines</st1:country-region></st1:place>
? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can you describe that –
or is there somewhere a lifelike drawing ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there any reason
(Assoziation) for this sign ? (Eselsbrücke??) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw<span lang=DE>-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</span></st1:PersonName><span
lang=DE>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Nana
Dumitra<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 18. August
2005 19:38<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> RE: [sw-l] Private lesson
with Val</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Stefan and Val,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wow, Stefan, I am
impressed. You are very observant! You picked exactly my weak spot </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>! Movements, especial the axial ones…I am still not very sure
about them. Actually when I fingerspelled “June” I did it without
checking my book (lazy me!). I did check the book now, and you are right
Stefan, it should be your June_4. The forearm is parallel to the floor. I am
just trying to change it in SignPuddle, but my connection is very weak right
now, so I am not sure I will be able to finish it. I am also changing the
orientation of the hand, because that is floor panel so should be with the
space. If you find any more weird things, please, let me know. I just tried
– with my “Lessons in SignWriting” book in hand – to do
what I had written earlier: I think I would need to break my hand in order to
do the movement I wrote </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>! Well, but this is how I learn more, so whenever
you have time, please, let me know my mistakes!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nana<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stefan Wöhrmann<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Donnerstag, 18. August 2005
17:48<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: [sw-l] Private lesson
with Val</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi
Valerie and Nana, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I went to the PH Signpuddle – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>one sign – source Valerie – caught my attention. It is
June ( fingerspelling) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>From my point of view – this rotation of the baby finger is
somehow difficult to understand. Well I do not know the manual Alphabet of the
Phillipines – but would be interesting to have a safe basis to start
from. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Attached you find my two spellings – ( at least my
guess what the movement may look like?) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>So perhaps Nana you can start to offer photos or gifs of what the
hand shapes of the Phillipine manual alphabet look like.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>What about the numbers from 1 to 10 – maybe 15 or 10, 20, 30
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>After we agree upon the idea what kind of hand shape (lifelike
representation ) you want to express with a SW symbol it is easier to start
with spelling questions. – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>All the best for your work!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 17. August
2005 16:42<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Private lesson
with Val</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>SignWriting List</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>August 17, 2005</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Nana
Dumitra wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For now
until I get to work on it J - you can go to the Filipino SignPuddle. There are
six signs that Val worked on with me: start, Nana, June, Genesis, earth and <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION style=""><ST1:PLACE style="">Philippines</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>.
My homework was to re-do school, which I posted today. ...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The sign
for school looks good, Nana!! Val ;-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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