<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>September 9, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Lucyna Dlugolecka wrote:<DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><FONT size="2">I finally managed to copy the pic of the Antarktyda sign into my notebook (I had to install additional software, I don't know why!). The shot shows the hands at the beginning of the movement. And now, compare it with my new writing attempt.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Hello Lucyna and Charles -</DIV><DIV>Thank you for the photo. That helps a lot. In your original word description, Lucyna, you said that the hands then move back. Do you really mean that? I believe you mean forward, don't you? If they move back, then they would finish touching your throat or shoulders?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Now, in regards to the palm facing, Charles, actually there will be no break in either handshape, since both are parallel with the wall plane. Nothing is parallel to the floor that I can see...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I would suggest waiting on this sign until I can standardize the use of the 10 hand symbol in the IMWA...it is creating problems in the computer program ID numbers and I am concerned about it...so let's wait until I get the 10 hand in the IMWA resolved...There was a reason, why I did not jump and change that symbol - the 10 hand is used in headers, representing a whole group of symbols...the 10 hand group...and so I am trying to make it possible to fix the symbol without all of us being required to re-enter all signs that use that symbol in SignPuddle...The change is also creating problems in the SignBank program, when we print the headers for handshapes in dictionaries sorted by sss...so we may have to re-do every sign that uses that handshape, and if so, then let's wait on writing this one! I hope to resolve it soon...Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN><IMG src="cid:E090CD81-12C5-4949-A80B-9A81985AE00E@local"></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>