<DIV>HMM, I looked at it again, and I guess what I am seeing is that the thumbs stick at one spot, the hands move from the elbow in a circle, and so the thumbs look as if they are circling but the tips stay in one place. </DIV>
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<DIV>Does RUB indicate that, Valerie?</DIV>
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<DIV>Charles</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>October 4, 2005<BR><BR>Marc Girod & Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:<BR>> I've been looking at the sign /ANIOL/ several time before seing the <BR>> thumbs touching the chest... I didn't event see it at first <BR>> glance... Val do we still have to use the same circle and then just <BR>> add the star for contact ? or do we have to change anything about <BR>> the movement as the thumbs keep in contact ? just wondering what to <BR>> do in such situations ??<BR><BR>The thumbs rub the chest, that is true. But they do not touch each <BR>other. You see, putting a contact star for touch is misleading in a <BR>sign like that, because it looks like you are saying that the thumbs <BR>are touching each other, and they do not touch each other <BR>continuously...but yes of course they are rubbing the chest, but that <BR>is another subject...<BR><BR>!
A Rub
symbol, without any other movement symbol combined, means Rub <BR>in a Circle. So if you want to show Rubbing in a Circle, that would <BR>be fine. Is that what you mean, Lucyna? No matter what, that is NOT <BR>wrist movement. My point was that the Wrist Movement symbol was <BR>incorrect, that's all.<BR><BR>Here it is with Rub Movement. No Touch symbol is necessary because it <BR>is assumed as a part of the Rub Symbol. When I read this I assume <BR>that I am doing two rubs with the thumbs on the chest...it is assumed <BR>to be the center of the chest area without any shoulder line....you <BR>would need to add a Shoulder LIne for higher up...this one is a <BR>little low probably...but perhaps this will solve the sign a bit...<BR><BR>So in summary...A Rub symbol without any other arrow, means rubbing <BR>in a circle, with continuous contact...<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>