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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Charles,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To me the first version is much clearer. I
am not too sure yet about the black dot for the closing of the hand/ fingers. I
don’t have the time right now to look it <span class=GramE>up </span></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;color:navy;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'><span
style='mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings'>L</span></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Greetings from the </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
  size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Philippines</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nana<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Charles Butler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2005
18:04<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [sw-l] Another
Compound Sign in FSL</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Very clear, now for one for you and the list. 
Which sign for "contrabando" is clearer.  I'm am trying to
show a hand taking money "under the table."  The open right
hand slides under the left hand and closes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><img width=76 height=55 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/dict/sl/contrabando.png"
alt=contrabando align=middle border=0> <span class=SpellE><span
class=GramE>contrabando</span></span>  <img width=51 height=65
id="_x0000_i1032"
src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR/dict/sl/contrabando_2.png"
alt="contrabando_2" align=middle border=0>  contrabando_2<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Nana Dumitra
<nana.dumitra@SCHLOSSKLAUS.AT></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Charles, Val and
List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for your input. I
think I took some of all the ideas that I got and combined them into what I
think is an easy to read and clear spelling for FSL “daughter”.
This is what you will now find in Signpuddle FSL: <img width=67 height=104
id="_x0000_i1030" src="cid:image001.jpg@01C5DD91.5EBD0710"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nana<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Charles Butler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sonntag, 16. Oktober 2005
01:26<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Another
Compound Sign in FSL</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I would have moved the arm and left hand to below the
arrows, as the primary movement is down, and centered it.  I can read it
because it is very similar to ASL, but this shows more explicitly the position
of the flat hands at the contact points.<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Nana Dumitra
<nana.dumitra@SCHLOSSKLAUS.AT></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear Val and List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks for the comments on
„purpose“.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now I have another question: The FSL
sign for daughter is very hard for me to write. I tried the following: <img
width=136 height=93 id="_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image002.jpg@01C5DD91.5EBD0710"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Here the verbal explanation: The
left hand is kind of stationary throughout the sign. The right hand starts out
touching the right cheek, then turns forward down and a little up again, before
hitting down on the lower left arm close to the elbow. It is a very graceful
movement, not jerky at all as one might think with all these arrows that I
wrote, but I have a hard time figuring out, which arrows to use and also how
much I need to write in order to still be understood.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Please, help!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Nana<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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