<DIV>I've been really swamped at work, but my hope is to get some more signs in over the next two weeks. Its' really fun to do, and my printer is finally working again so I can put the signs in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charles</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(i lost my password as an editor -- again, so I can't fix some of the older signs).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charles</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List <DIV>November 19, 2005</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Augusto - I just found out that you are already an Editor of the SignPuddle dictionary! That is great news ;-) So you do not have to sign up again...you have already done that ;-) Sorry for my confusion...</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Charles -</DIV> <DIV>Yes...I need !
to work
on other projects, like getting the new upload for SignBank on the web, so we can work on your dictionary publication! So I think it would be great if Augusto and others can try to write what they need with the symbols in SignMaker in SignPuddle, and add them to the Brazilian SignPuddle themselves, even though they are only mouth movements or speech-related symbols...that can be marked as such, in the dictionary...Then, post an example to our List here and we can have fun discussing it!</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>I hope you can add a few of the signs from your dictionary project into the Brazilian SignPuddle too, so that when I start teaching how to create multi-lingual dictionaries with SignBank, we can use a few examples from your dictionary document, to test it, etc...smile...</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>And regarding Mouth Movements...remember looking at the work of Stefan Woehrmann...even though that is for!
the
German spoken language mouth movements, it still is a fascinating system (Mundbildschrift) that is working with Deaf children in Germany...</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>SignWriting in Germany</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.signwriting.org/germany">http://www.SignWriting.org/germany</A></DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Val ;-)</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>---------------------</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Nov 19, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV>I guess, Valerie, what he's wanting to show is the difference between "velar" (the tongue at the roof of the mouth (like where it goes for a k or a g) and alveolar (like the letters t or d) or gutteral (like the gh in Arabic) or glottal (like the sound h). I know you can show labio-fricative (like for f or v) but !
I'm not
sure if you can show the "sh" position of the teeth and the tongue. The fourth column only shows the tongue inside the mouth, it doesn't distinguish, that I can see, between these many positions, and from a distance, I'm not sure it can. There may be a way, I'm just not sure that I have seen it through the years with sign writing. There may be a good way to adapt what we have to that usage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charles Butler</DIV> <DIV><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <<A href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Si! gnWriting List<BR>November 19, 2005<BR><BR>Augusto wrote:<BR>> How can I write with SW the tongue´s position inside the mouth? <BR>> It´s possible?<BR><BR>----------------------<BR><BR>Hello Augusto!<BR>I just sent you another email privately, inviting you to become an <BR>Edit!
or of the
Brazilian SignPuddle. I sent it to this email address:<BR><BR><A href="mailto:Augusto@dicionariolibras.com.br">Augusto@dicionariolibras.com.br</A><BR><BR>Is that the correct email address? I sent this before...a long time <BR>ago...but I don't believe you got it...anyway...be sure to click on <BR>the link in the email-invitation to establish your password, so you <BR>can start adding signs to the Brazilian SignPuddle...<BR><BR>Now...regarding your question...Yes. We do have many Tongue symbols. <BR>Go to your SignPuddle:<BR><BR>Brazilian SignPuddle<BR>http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BR<BR><BR>and click on the SignMaker icon. Then click on this symbol, and other <BR>symbols appear...They are the Tongue symbols...see attached diagram. <BR>T! ongue on the inside of the mouth is the fourth column over to the <BR>right...hope this helps...<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV>