<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>SignWriting List</DIV><DIV>November 30, 2005</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am so glad that Shane posted a message in response to your message, Ingvild, because for some reason, I didn't see it in my email box...Thanks for these Norwegian signs for Christmas...interesting about the word Yul in Scandinavian spoken languages...I would have thought the sign to the right was representing a circular wreath on the door...which we do here in the US at Christmas time...smile...Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 29/11/05,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><B class="gmail_sendername"><A href="mailto:iroald@hotmail.com"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); font-weight: bold; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">iroald@hotmail.com</SPAN></A></B><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><<A href="mailto:iroald@hotmail.com"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">iroald@hotmail.com</SPAN></A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><TABLE border="1" cellpadding="5"><TBODY style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; "><TR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; "><TD style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; "><TABLE border="1" cellpadding="10"><TBODY style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; "><TR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; "><TD valign="top"><CENTER style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "><IMG src="cid:jul.png" alt="jul" align="middle" border="0"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "> </SPAN><IMG src="cid:dot_a.png" border="0"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "> </SPAN><BR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "><IMG src="cid:space_v.png"><BR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "></CENTER></TD><TD valign="top"><CENTER style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "><IMG src="cid:jul_2.png" alt="jul_2" align="middle" border="0"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "> </SPAN><IMG src="cid:dot_a.png" border="0"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "> </SPAN><BR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "><IMG src="cid:space_v.png"><BR style="border-spacing: 2px 2px; text-align: -khtml-center; "></CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P></P><P>In Norwegian sign language, NTS, there are two signs commonly used.</P><P></P><P>One of them outlines the christmas three, the other one reminds us that the mouth (and sound) is the same as for \'hjul\', meaning \'wheel\'. \'Wheel\' is signed differntly, though. - It may be that the word \'jul\' (English \'youl\') is etymologically connected to the turn of the year, and hence to a kind of wheel, but that is speculatiosn on my side.</P><P></P><P>But you can use either of these signs in NSL (=NTS) and be understood.</P><P></P><P>Ingvild<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR></P><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>