<DIV>Sorry I missed the left hand closed circle, my load wasn't working too well this morning.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Charles</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>I don't know if this will work, but with both the knuckles and the hinge exploding, it felt like this. Coupled with a change in facial expression (like some of the German dictionaries), see if it gives you the feel. The open and closed circle for "milk" comes to mind, but it doesn't show the full extension of the fingers, and I felt if it were "above the hinge movement" it would apply to the whole hand, not just one finger..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt=amaze_3 src="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/amaze_3.png" align=middle border=0> Amaze_3 (in ASL SignPuddle)<BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton
<email@example.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>December 1, 2005<BR><BR>Stuart Thiessen wrote:<BR>> Since our conversation, I had been thinking about this too. I had <BR>> an idea for a symbol for that ! movement. I don't know if it messes <BR>> up the system at all to do this. But what about this? I would read <BR>> this as bending the knuckles up and down. Since there is no closing <BR>> position, could I assume I return to the same handshape unless <BR>> otherwise stated? If I was doing research writing, maybe I could <BR>> put the 5 hand above the knuckle symbols? What do you think? It is <BR>> in the SignPuddle as amaze_2. I can delete it if it breaks other <BR>> rules.<BR><BR>Hello Stuart!<BR>This is a very interesting writing...thank you for trying this. See <BR>the attached diagram for my four attempts, which are al!
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<BR>SignPuddle under AMAZEMENT...Yours is number 4 in the attached...<BR><BR>Your writing is like a shorthand or a shorter way to write a <BR>complicated sign. It does assume some knowledge of the sign in <BR>advance I suspect, but it does not really break any rules, as you ask <BR>above...just a new way of writing and we have to see i! f people can <BR>read it...<BR><BR>Regarding my versions in the attached...The first two are very <BR>detailed. The hands are read from the center (close to the face) - <BR>out...Notice the Fast Symbols are symmetrically placed over the <BR>movement for each hand...<BR><BR>Technically the Finger Movements are really both the middle joint and <BR>the knuckle joint opening and closing...but if we used dots, we would <BR>not be sure if the fingers opened completely or not...so using the <BR>HInge movement symbol is an interesting choice...it makes it clear <BR>that it fully extends...<BR><BR>Maybe you can show these to some ASL signers to see h!
feel? <BR>Anyone else have an opinion here on the List?...Which can you read <BR>better?<BR><BR>There is a fifth way, based on old writings that we have used in the <BR>1990's...later today I will try to find that and then post it too...<BR><BR>Have a great day, everyone! Val ;-)<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV>