<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We use several different variations
here... the top 'open C' hand moving down twice onto the lower flat
hand, the single pull pack with both hands moving together: both are
used, but more common is sort of a double shake... I had to sign
it several times to figure out that it actually moves down and =forward=
a little. Would I use the diagonal plane symbols for that, or not
because it could be understood without them? Val. I like your variation.
I can see both handshapes clearly. If the grasp symbol is used,
you wouldn't need the surface symbol, right? The 'old' spellings
had the grasp symbol, but they had the two handshapes overlapping... that's
why I thought the surface symbol might be better in that instance.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
---------------------------------<br>
Cherie Wren<br>
GSD Staff Interpreter<br>
232 Perry Farm Rd<br>
Cave Spring, GA 30124<br>
706-777-2328<br>
706-766-0766 Cell<br>
<br>
This message and any included attachments are from the Georgia School for
the Deaf and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained
herein may include privileged or otherwise confidential information. If
you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately,
and delete it from your system.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<table width=100%>
<tr valign=top>
<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Valerie Sutton"
<sutton@signwriting.org></b> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">12/15/2005 10:59 AM</font>
<table border>
<tr valign=top>
<td bgcolor=white>
<div align=center><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Please respond to<br>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</font></div></table>
<br>
<td width=59%>
<table width=100%>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">To</font></div>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</font>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">cc</font></div>
<td>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div>
<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [sw-l] Surface symbols</font></table>
<br>
<table>
<tr valign=top>
<td>
<td></table>
<br></table>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3>SignWriting List</font>
<br><font size=3>December 15, 2005</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Philippe in Iowa, USA, wrote:</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">I noticed the arrow seems not
right since I don’t move my hand down for English. I move my hand
toward to myself. The first English spelling with correct arrow symbol
is correct. Make sense?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Hi Philip!</font>
<br><font size=3>Great to get your feedback. Yes. You agree with our Deaf
DAC members...they wrote the first two signs in the attached diagram...the
second sign is another variation...it shows the right hand moving down
twice onto the left hand...I have seen that variation in some parts of
the US...but you are right that the first one seems to be the most commonly
used...moving back towards the chest</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Cherie comes from Georgia...maybe in Georgia they move
down with both hands? smile...There are different ways that signs are signed...but
usually one writing starts to become the standard way to write the sign...For
right now, we are writing different variations and placing them in the
SignPuddle...that way we can discuss the different variations easily on
the SignWriting List...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>Have you ever seen the second variation?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><img src=cid:_1_02720610027203BC006556DC852570D8>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>