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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did ask someone here and we never see
the second variation (going down). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=4 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
Arial;color:red'>Philippe "Philip" Gallant</span></font><font
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</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cultural Advocacy Health Services Coordinator</span></font><font
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</span></font><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2
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VOICE: (866) 410-5787 ext. 73013</span></font><font color=navy><span
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TTY: (515) 643-SIGN (7446)</span></font><font color=navy><span
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FAX: (515) 643-2859<br>
VIDEOPHONE: pgallant.mercydesmoines.org</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 15, 2005
10:00 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Surface
symbols</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>December 15, 2005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Philippe in <st1:State w:st="on">Iowa</st1:State>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>, wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I
noticed the arrow seems not right since I dont move my hand down for English. I
move my hand toward to myself. The first English spelling with correct arrow
symbol is correct. Make sense?</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Philip!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Great to get your feedback. Yes. You agree with our Deaf DAC
members...they wrote the first two signs in the attached diagram...the second
sign is another variation...it shows the right hand moving down twice onto the
left hand...I have seen that variation in some parts of the US...but you are
right that the first one seems to be the most commonly used...moving back
towards the chest<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cherie comes from <st1:country-region w:st="on">Georgia</st1:country-region>...maybe
in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Georgia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
they move down with both hands? smile...There are different ways that signs are
signed...but usually one writing starts to become the standard way to write the
sign...For right now, we are writing different variations and placing them in
the SignPuddle...that way we can discuss the different variations easily on the
SignWriting List...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Have you ever seen the second variation?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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