<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>April 19, 2006</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:59 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<SPAN lang="EN-GB" style=""></SPAN><DIV><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3333px;">I never used this timing-symbol (alternating at the same time and especially if the arrows show this information clearly the single little curve would be enough indicating that both hands move at the same time – the arrows indicate left hand this direction – right hand that direction. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3333px;">From my point of view b)is much better to understand. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3333px;">What do you think? </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3333px;">Stefan ;-)</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><DIV class="Section1"></DIV></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV>Hello Stefan and Everyone!</DIV><DIV>I think you know SignWriting very well and you do not need the added information, because you know how to write the alternating without it! That is fine. Both are correct.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>We didn't have the Alternating Timing symbol until SignWriting was at least 15 years old...Alternating was built into the symbols themselves, as you mention above, so an extra symbol for Alternating was not needed...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But, then later, some people started writing some signs that were harder and less clear to see, and so the added Timing symbols had some uses for clarity, in those rare signs, so we added those symbols. Linguists tend to like them ;-))</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>And there are times when they can be absolutely required...so there is a use for the Timing symbols...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But I rarely use them too, because most of the time they are not necessary...so I see them as added reinforcement for the reader, rather than a requirement ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So in the diagram attached, both are correct. I personally write like B most of the time, but technically you could take the alternating information out of A and still read it...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for your question! Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN><IMG src="cid:98534B79-A815-4F19-A622-9FCE79F6C464@local"></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>