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<DIV><SPAN class=359021910-02062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
Val and Stuart for your (comprehensive as ever) responses!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359021910-02062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I was
unaware of a SWML and duly look forward to looking into it with a view to its
usability with the kind of translation I'm researching. Thank you for the update
on the developments of SignWriting in Unicode as well, I'll be checking out
the links you sent and hopefully I'll glean some useful information from them.
I'll be in touch as my research progresses :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359021910-02062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
again,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359021910-02062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Namaste,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=359021910-02062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sara</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Valerie
Sutton<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 June 2006 20:29<BR><B>To:</B>
sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B> dwanders@berkeley.edu; Michael
Everson; Patrice Dalle; lrec@externe.net; Albert Bickford; Steven Aerts; Bart
Braem; machado<BR><B>Subject:</B> [sw-l] SignWriting in
Unicode<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>SignWriting List
<DIV>June 1, 2006</DIV>
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<DIV>Sara Morrissey wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>There was a mention on the list a while ago about SignWriting being
coded in</DIV>
<DIV>Unicode (see below for original mailing). I was wondering if anyone
knows of</DIV>
<DIV>any further developments on this? I'd be interested to know as I
could</DIV>
<DIV>potentially use a Unicode version in the data-oriented SL translation
work</DIV>
<DIV>I'm researching and would be interested in comparing it to the
annotated</DIV>
<DIV>data I'm currently using.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Sara and SW List members!</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><B>First, regarding Unicode...</B></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Thank you for your question. Certainly it is hoped that someday
SignWriting will be in Unicode.</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><B><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></B></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><B>1. DUBLIN</B>...Unicode expert, Michael
Everson, has already focused some time on the issue of SW in
Unicode...</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Everson Typography</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.evertype.com">http://www.evertype.com</A>/</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/unicode/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/unicode/</A></DIV>
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<DIV>------</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><B><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></B></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><B>2. USA & UK</B>...Members of the
Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL), have focused on this issue over several
years...</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>SIL</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.ethnologue.com">http://www.ethnologue.com</A>/</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>And then Deborah Anderson, from the University of California at Berkeley
(see below) expressed interest recently...</DIV>
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<DIV><B><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></B></DIV>
<DIV><B>3. FRANCE</B>...A Unicode-related research project has been ongoing
for several years:</DIV>
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<DIV>Research by Patrice Dalle and Guylhem Aznar</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://signwriting.org/forums/software/lisbon/lisbon09.html">http://signwriting.org/forums/software/lisbon/lisbon09.html</A></DIV>
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<DIV><B>-----</B></DIV>
<DIV><B><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></B></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><B>4</B><B>. SVG SYMBOLS</B>...SVG or
TrueType symbols are needed for Unicode development...thanks to Steven Aerts
and Bart Braem in Belgium, and most recently from Machado in Brazil, we now
have most of the symbols in SVG...Machado's symbols are very beautiful with a
calligraphy style to them that is really unique...thank you for developing
these SVG symbols!</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>SignWriting Symbols in SVG</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/IMWA-Downloads.html">http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/IMWA-Downloads.html</A></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span><B>Second</B>, regarding searching documents
written in SignWriting, it is not just Unicode that can be the answer. For
example, right now, with SWML, we can search in SignPuddle for all the signs
that use certain symbols, or combinations of symbols, or symbol frequency. And
in SignBank, without SWML, we have also achieved sophisticated searches within
FileMaker databases simply by specialized programming...so perhaps your work,
Sara, can go forward anyway, even though Unicode is not developed
yet...</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>SWML was originally developed by Dr. Antonio Carlos da Rocha Costa in
Brazil:</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><B>SWML</B></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/swml/swml01.html">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/swml/swml01.html</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>and is now used in SignPuddle and SignText for searching and other
wonderful features...developed by Stephen Slevinski</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><B>SignPuddle-SignText</B></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.SignPuddle.org">http://www.SignPuddle.org</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Want to try a search right now? Give us an example of what you want to
search and let us discuss how we could facilitate your project
immediately...</DIV>
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<DIV>Val ;-)</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>---------------</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>Sara Morrissey wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>There was a mention on the list a while ago about SignWriting being
coded in</DIV>
<DIV>Unicode (see below for original mailing). I was wondering if anyone
knows of</DIV>
<DIV>any further developments on this? I'd be interested to know as I
could</DIV>
<DIV>potentially use a Unicode version in the data-oriented SL translation
work</DIV>
<DIV>I'm researching and would be interested in comparing it to the
annotated</DIV>
<DIV>data I'm currently using.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Namaste,</DIV>
<DIV>Sara</DIV>
<DIV>*</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Sara Morrissey,</DIV>
<DIV>PhD researcher,</DIV>
<DIV>National Centre for Language Technology (NCLT),</DIV>
<DIV>School of Computing,</DIV>
<DIV>Dublin City University,</DIV>
<DIV>Glasnevin,</DIV>
<DIV>Dublin 9,</DIV>
<DIV>Ireland.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tel: +353 1 700 6914</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV>From: <A
href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV>[<A
href="mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">mailto:owner-sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A>]On
Behalf Of Valerie Sutton</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: 19 May 2006 16:24</DIV>
<DIV>To: SignWriting List</DIV>
<DIV>Cc: <A href="mailto:dwanders@berkeley.edu">dwanders@berkeley.edu</A>;
Deborah Anderson</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: [sw-l] Re: Number of publications with SignWriting?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>SignWriting List</DIV>
<DIV>May 19, 2006</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>SW List Members -</DIV>
<DIV>Deborah Anderson asked me to post this message to the SignWriting</DIV>
<DIV>List (see below). This question is in relation to placing
SignWriting</DIV>
<DIV>in Unicode. Deborah is attending a meeting of the Unicode
Technical</DIV>
<DIV>Committee all this week, and they need to know how many
publications,</DIV>
<DIV>(or how many pages in documents), have been written in</DIV>
<DIV>SignWriting?...I told Deborah well over 1000 documents at least,
if</DIV>
<DIV>not more, plus the number of pages will be in the multiple
thousands...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>For example, just the Parkhurst Mystery Novel alone, written in</DIV>
<DIV>Spanish Sign Language from Madrid, is 140 pages of pure</DIV>
<DIV>SignWriting...in a perfect bound book..that is only one of
many...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Deborah - You can read about that Novel written in SignWriting on</DIV>
<DIV>this web page:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>SignWriting in Spain</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.SignWriting.org/spain">http://www.SignWriting.org/spain</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Val ;-)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On May 18, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Deborah Anderson wrote:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>Dear Madam (or Sir),</DIV>
<DIV>I am working on a project and need to estimate the number of</DIV>
<DIV>publications in the world today in SignWriting (books,
magazines,</DIV>
<DIV>articles), as well as those that contain SignWriting (i.e.,</DIV>
<DIV>introductory books in English or German that teach SignWriting).
In</DIV>
<DIV>doing a search on "WorldCat" via the UC Berkeley library, I
only</DIV>
<DIV>come up with 25 books, which I am sure is probably too low. I
see</DIV>
<DIV>there are two serial publications, The Sign Writer (1989-) and
Sign</DIV>
<DIV>Writer updates (begun?), which ought also to be included in a</DIV>
<DIV>count. Do you think the number of books today (as produced in
all</DIV>
<DIV>countries) in SignWriting and with SignWriting might total 400
or</DIV>
<DIV>so, with magazines perhaps 10?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I've looked through your website and thought it best to write
to</DIV>
<DIV>you for any assistance you could provide. I'd be very grateful
for</DIV>
<DIV>any assistance you can provide.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>With many thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Deborah Anderson</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Deborah Anderson</DIV>
<DIV>Researcher, Dept. of Linguistics, UC Berkeley</DIV>
<DIV>Proj. Leader, Script Encoding Initiative</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/sei">http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/sei</A></DIV>
<DIV>NOTE NEW Email: <A
href="mailto:dwanders@sonic.net">dwanders@sonic.net</A></DIV>
<DIV>(or <A
href="mailto:dwanders@berkeley.edu">dwanders@berkeley.edu</A>)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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