<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>July 5, 2006</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV>Cherie Wren from Georgia, US wrote:</DIV><DIV>I attended the RID Region II conference while y'all were at NAD. One workshop was on using ASL poetry to interpret nursery rhymes... the attached was our groups rendition of "Jack and Jill". For those who aren't familiar with ASL poetry, rhyming is done with repeating handshapes. This interpretation of Jack and Jill uses the 1 (index finger extended) handshape almost exclusively... brief modification with the classifier describing the pail, but other than that...I had some trouble with the diagonals for up and down the hill... Did I write them correctly? Also how do you indicate that a handshape is left in place from the previous sign, while the next part happens? Did what I did here convey that adequately?</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Jack and Jill</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">went up the hill</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">to fetch a pail of water</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Jack fell down</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">and broke his crown</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">and Jill came tumbling after.</FONT></P><P style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">cherie</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV>-----------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hello Cherie and Everyone!</DIV><DIV>This is so cool. Great to see sentences in SignWriting.... Thank you! And most with the Index Finger...interesting!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>For the purpose of this email, I created a GIF of the sentence to make sure everyone on the List will see it. I think our List is suffering from not enough memory to handle all the many email messages and big graphics, and also spam...so when a big diagram is posted, it can rob other messages from a chance to post...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So see the GIF attached.. The first sign establishes Jack? and the second one is Jill? When I first read it, I longed for having Jill there waiting with white palm on the left side while Jack moved...so the sign would start with two white palmed index hands somewhat far apart from each other...but then I realized it may not have been signed that way...It doesn't feel like a beginning of a sentence because we have always written a facial expression in the beginning of sentences...like eyebrows up for a topic marker, or eyebrows down for emphasis... Does the beginning of the sentence have a facial expression? It would help the reader anchor the sentence's center...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I look forward to discussing sign three next...I hope later today...Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN><IMG src="cid:B8326FC0-5C3C-4DFB-B2A6-41B044AC63E8@local"></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>