<br><font size=3>[[It doesn't feel like a beginning of a sentence because
we have always written a facial expression in the beginning of sentences...like
eyebrows up for a topic marker, or eyebrows down for emphasis... Does the
beginning of the sentence have a facial expression? It would help the reader
anchor the sentence's center...]]</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">There isn't a specific facial expression,
no topic or anything... Should I add a neutral face just because?
Should there be a rule about always starting with a facial expression
for the purpose of shoeing center and signifying the start of a sentence?</font>
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<br><font size=3>Upper row left:</font>
<br><font size=3>Movement curves up-and-forward three times..The curve
is hitting the front wall, at the Horizon, while it moves up. It is a little
like being pregnant, but the curve is moving up instead of down...</font>
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<br><font size=3>Upper row right:</font>
<br><font size=3>This is a smoother rolling connecting curve with forward
to the horizon pushes along the way traveling up</font>
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<br><font size=3>Lower row left:</font>
<br><font size=3>Straight diagonal...Up-forward, Up-forward, Up-forward.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The diagonal upwards </font><img src=cid:_1_05D11A2405D11200005CD36A852571A3><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> sign...
I had a real hard time selecting the arrow for that. the movement
is actually like this: </font><img src=cid:_1_05D11D5405D11200005CD36A852571A3><font size=2 face="sans-serif">each
section of the arrow moving in an arc down and to the side as each successive
arc leads upwards and forwards. Hard to describe... maybe I'll
film it and send it to you, Val. The curve is forward and to
the side diagonally... </font><img src=cid:_1_05D1440405D11200005CD36A852571A3><font size=2 face="sans-serif">
three times, moving forward each time. But I couldn't find that arrow
in SignText...</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">BTW, in regards to the "how do
you make literature" thread, I use SignTExt with a second window open
to the Puddle sometimes, and sometimes just straight with SignText. Depending
on what I'm doing. I'm still new enough to this that I like to see
how other people have spelled things, and compare that with what I am doing...</font>
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<br><font size=3>SignWriting List</font>
<br><font size=3>July 5, 2006</font>
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<br><font size=3>Cherie Wren from Georgia, US wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3>I attended the RID Region II conference while y'all were
at NAD. One workshop was on using ASL poetry to interpret nursery
rhymes... the attached was our groups rendition of "Jack and Jill".
For those who aren't familiar with ASL poetry, rhyming is done with repeating handshapes.
This interpretation of Jack and Jill uses the 1 (index finger extended)
handshape almost exclusively... brief modification with the classifier
describing the pail, but other than that...I had some trouble with the
diagonals for up and down the hill... Did I write them correctly? Also
how do you indicate that a handshape is left in place from the previous
sign, while the next part happens? Did what I did here convey that adequately?</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>Jack and Jill</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>went up the hill</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>to fetch a pail of water</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>Jack fell down</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>and broke his crown</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>and Jill came tumbling after.</font>
<p><font size=3 color=#0000dd>cherie</font>
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<br><font size=3>Hello Cherie and Everyone!</font>
<br><font size=3>This is so cool. Great to see sentences in SignWriting....
Thank you! And most with the Index Finger...interesting!</font>
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<br><font size=3>For the purpose of this email, I created a GIF of the
sentence to make sure everyone on the List will see it. I think our List
is suffering from not enough memory to handle all the many email messages
and big graphics, and also spam...so when a big diagram is posted, it can
rob other messages from a chance to post...</font>
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<br><font size=3>So see the GIF attached.. The first sign establishes Jack?
and the second one is Jill? When I first read it, I longed for having Jill
there waiting with white palm on the left side while Jack moved...so the
sign would start with two white palmed index hands somewhat far apart from
each other...but then I realized it may not have been signed that way...It
doesn't feel like a beginning of a sentence because we have always written
a facial expression in the beginning of sentences...like eyebrows up for
a topic marker, or eyebrows down for emphasis... Does the beginning of
the sentence have a facial expression? It would help the reader anchor
the sentence's center...</font>
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<br><font size=3>I look forward to discussing sign three next...I hope
later today...Val ;-)</font>
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