<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<DIV>August 8, 2006</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hi Cherie -</DIV><DIV>I agree with Charles, this is very nicely written and quite accurate.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Good luck with showing how SW will integrate with current teaching methods...The Fairview method is a reading program that uses ASL to teach Deaf kids, is that right? </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Val ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>---------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>Cherie from Georgia wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><FONT size="2" face="sans-serif"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; ">I am trying to spell this sign... Its in a reading program for Deaf kids called Fairview, if any of you are familiar with it... They use it as a sign for "give out," meaning exhausted, too tired to do anything. They have it glossed as "fall flat," and describe it as "legs on open palm, back" Here is my rough attempt to write what I think they mean:</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR><IMG src="cid:_1_04570A2406AEE2C80051A427852571C4"><FONT size="2" face="sans-serif"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; "> Is it spelled reasonably correctly? The V hand falls with a loop-di-loop, then smacks onto the open palm, then pulls back along the hand.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR><FONT size="2" face="sans-serif"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; "> We are trying to show how SW can be integrated with current teaching materials to make everyone's life easier. </SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR><FONT size="2" face="sans-serif"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; ">Another gloss they have for "Give out" is 'fall flat 2'-- "flat hand on open palm, back" and one glossed as exhausted-- "hooked 8s to open 5s" I know what "closed fists to open 5s" is (another one on the same card), but I can't figure out the hooked 8s... Do any of you know which signs these phrases might be referring to?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR><FONT size="2" face="sans-serif"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; ">Thanks for all your help!</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>