<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Shouldn't the sign for SAME have the
palm facing down on the floor plane? I have never seen the sign SAME with
palms facing in toward each other...</font>
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This is the sign SAME-ALL-OVER</font>
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I would gloss this as "same-old-same-old" but notice
the movement of the circles is different than the above "same"--
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Either of these signs adds additional
meaning to the sentence "GALLY UNITE SAME." In the first
instance Gally is united all over (not just here): and in the second
instance Gally is united again (and will always be). Stuff
in parentheses is implied, not explicit. I would love to see a video
of someone signing this...</font>
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<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">10/22/2006 09:54 PM</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>SignWriting List<br>
October 22, 2006<br>
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OK. The Shorthand sample is now posted on this web page:<br>
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Val's Shorthand of the Gally sentence...<br>
http://www.SignWriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html<br>
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Val ;-)<br>
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On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:<br>
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> Hello Everyone!<br>
> This message refuses to post to the List, if I include a diagram,
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> so I am posting the message here once again, and then I will create
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> a web page with the diagram...so that link is coming ! Val ;-)<br>
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> SignWriting List<br>
> October 22, 2006<br>
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> Kimberley Shaw wrote:<br>
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>> The SW below is what I think that sign is saying, which is one
of <br>
>> the big chants from this round of protests. "J-a-n-e out"
is the <br>
>> other one. By the way, SignText doesn't want to load up onto my
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>> computer today, so I had to use Puddle "translate" today
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> Hi Kim and Stuart!<br>
> Sorry to see SignText did not work for you today. Regarding the <br>
> Puddle signs...they are not written correctly regarding palm <br>
> facing...they had the palm facing switched so I have switched them
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> in the attached diagram plus I attached my quick shorthand for <br>
> those signs to the right...<br>
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> Shorthand is not the same as Handwriting...Handwriting is more <br>
> formal in comparison...Shorthand is more personal...I assume <br>
> knowledge of the signs...for example in the middle sign...I didn't
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> need to write both hands since the Grasp Symbol informed me of two
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> hands and I assumed they were the same handshape unless otherwise
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> stated...In Shorhand the baseshape or rootshape is not important <br>
> because you are assuming knowledge of the language, but when you re-
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> write your notes in SignWriting Printing then you use the proper <br>
> official symbols.<br>
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> The Shorthand that you saw on the Gallaudet poster is quite similar
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> to SignWriting...it looks like a direct take from SignWriting, but
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> it might also be a blend of other notation systems that people <br>
> develop for themselves personally, like Bernard Bragg's, which <br>
> Stuart just mentioned...You would be amazed how many personal <br>
> notation systems look a little like SignWriting...that is a good <br>
> sign, because it means that we are visually in tune with how <br>
> signers naturally think...<br>
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> No matter what, it is exciting to see the pictures of the poster <br>
> with the writing! Maybe people are ready to start writing signs -
I <br>
> hope so! For those who want ASL to be respected, I would think <br>
> writing the language would become more and more important as time
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> goes on -<br>
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> Thanks for your postings, Stuart and Kim!<br>
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> Val ;-)<br>
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