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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Charles and sw –list,
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree with what Charles
said. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From my point of view
there is no need to add this “Heel of Hand” symbol in any spelling
that is possible to write with the flat hand parallel to the floor. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are two reasons –
first of all I would love to keep the symbol-set at a minimum size - second:
it is what Charles said – the more the brain has to work in order to identify
similar symbols as different the more difficult these spellings are to read.
Well – if there are new handshapes in other cultures – like we find
in the EMA – no problem to accept that new symbols are needed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps this “Heel
of hand” symbols offers some advantage in quick handwriting – I would
understand that – and of course everybody is free to develop his own
style of writing keeping in mind that his “readers” will have no
trouble to read the written documents without any problems ...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto:owner-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Charles Butler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 14. Dezember
2006 20:33<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Remove using
5-hand or heel</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Looking at it at first glance, it looks far too much like the
thumb-ASL-A hand, even though the split is different. When I see an
angled finger on something that looks like a square, thatīs an A, whether
a square or a short rectangle, and a short rectangle looks like an A hand, not
the long hand of a neutral flat hand. Maybe in writing it is more
distinct but the computer makes them awfully similar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My quick thoughts. My first guess was two A hands moving
against each other, which is not your intent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Charles<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on"><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Valerie
Sutton</span></i></b></st1:PersonName><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> <signwriting@MAC.COM></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SignWriting List<br>
December 14, 2006<br>
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Philippe and Stuart and Adam and Everyone!<br>
<br>
I have two questions for you too...Take a look at the attached...the <br>
top ones are examples you showed us first, using the symbols that are <br>
currently in the IMWA. The Heel of Hand is very short in the IMWA.<br>
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Look at my diagram at the bottom (number 3)...I made the Heel of Hand <br>
symbol a little bit longer...plus I wrote the Brush Symbol in the <br>
middle of the stem of the arrow the way I would write it by hand...<br>
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Can you read my example? Which do you prefer?<br>
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