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Valerie Sutton wrote:
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January 11, 2007
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Hello Eric!
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Eric mead wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi. I'm rather new to all of this, so forgive
me if this question has already been addressed.
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Welcome to the SignWriting List. You are jumping in head first! That is
fine...you are brave ;-))
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<blockquote type="cite">I am working through the SignWriting
handwriting course, and it occurs to me that the ordering of the
strokes might be important. In Asian scripts it is VERY important in
that it causes rather regular 'mistakes' which can be more easily
recognized throughout different handwriting styles.
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That is very interesting about Asian scripts...As you know, I am not
knowledgeable about Asian scripts...technically it does not have any
connection to SignWriting...but there are two factors that are
similar...SignWriting can be written in vertical columns and
SignWriting signs are written in clusters...that is...the symbols are
not written from left to right in a string, but are instead like little
groupings of symbols that are both above and below each other...so in
that sense...the strokes may be valuable...
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<blockquote type="cite">(It's also just important traditionally
because of calligraphy and history.) I personally believe that it is
this stroke ordering which helped to foster the otherwise difficult to
decipher calligraphy styles in ancient times. I would love to see a
SignWriting calligraphy develop!!
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Wonderful. I agree I hope it develops too!!
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Valerie, could you include the ordering of the strokes in each
handwriten sign? I believe you did this for the SignWriting printing
course pages, right?
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I will be happy to do what I can. Stroke-sequencing has not been fully
developed yet, since until recently, people just wrote by hand the best
they could, without official courses in Handwriting...so I can
certainly share with you my personal stroke-sequencing and we can see
if it fits with what feels good for others...
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Hi Val, <br>
When I went to school and learned to write, we were taught to make
the printed strokes in certain order, the same for cursive writing also
had it rules as to where capital letters started and stopped and where
lowercase letters tarted and stop. It would be nice to have some rules
that have worked well for others to write HandWriting or CursiveWriting
better. (But of course these rules need to have a logical rational
behind them)<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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This is what I propose...
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1. Everyone is going to turn in their homework assignment for Lesson 1
by Monday...(by the way...only page 8 in the homework assignment needs
to be turned in...)
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2. at the same time, on Monday, I will announce the posting of Lesson 2
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3. we will spend all of next week making comments on Lesson 1 homework
assignments plus discussing Lesson 2 ;-))
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4. and this will repeat for one more week for Lesson 3 as well...
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Then the course is finished for now!
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What will Lesson 2 and Lesson 3 present?
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Lesson 2...a reference chart of most commonly used symbols, including
movement arrows, facial expressions, contact symbols, punctuation,
dynamics and more handshapes...all listed in one long chart, showing
the Printing and Handwriting and Shorthand for each symbol...and then a
homework assignment
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Lesson 3...Cursive writing (connecting symbols within one sign so the
sign is one complete unit without lifting your pen from the page)
Cursive writing uses Shorthand mainly, and does not include enough
detail for most purposes, but for your own personal notes it is quite
amazing...
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And who knows, Eric...maybe in time these writing styles will become
more of the mainstream...we are finding our way...that is why the
reference chart in Lesson 2 is so important...so people can explore
different writing styles...
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Thanks for your interest and participation!
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Val ;-)
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