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Val,<br>
You are right. I was confusing what was on the web before
"SignWriting by Hand" and this course: "SignWriting HandWriting".
Thank you for pointing that out.<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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Valerie Sutton wrote:
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type="cite">Jonathan -
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You are mixing the Handprinting with the Handwriting...two different
ways of writing...so that is part of the problem you are having...we
can talk more about that later...Val ;-)
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On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I did my homework before Val cleared up the
topless issue the what was confusing some of the participants. I
wasn't confused but I didn't do it the way Val expected me too either.
For the horizontal flat hand I put a line through the symbol to show
that it was horizontal. I did it this way because this is how I had
seen it on the website about handwriting (not this course) I left the
fist with the index finger topless because I figured that if the fist
was topless the fist with index should also be topless. I didn't find
it confusing, it just made sense to me at the time. In retrospect I
would've made the horizontal flat hand topless too. That way I would
of had everything topless. I think it is confusing having some
horizontal symbols topless and others not. I guess I could put an
extra line through all the symbols but that is two lines longer to
write that the topless method. It would be nice to have some kind of a
standard. If we do things one way for one symbol and another for the
same position on another symbol, it will get quite confusing. But one
thing I was wondering, is it possible for all hand shapes to be drawn
topless???????? If not then we aren't any closer to having a standard
for handwriting horizontal symbols.
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I also share Stuart's point of view about the gap not always being
noticeable. In fact, when I was trying to show Allan to draw the
horizontal handwriting index finger that Val had written and scanned
from the fixed up web page which I had printed out, he drew it without
a gap. I told him, "Your's isn't the same as the one on the page".
He looked at what he wrote and at the printed page and claimed that
they were the same. I told him to look again. He couldn't figure out
what I thought he was doing wrong. Then he looked at it really closely
and realized that there was a gap there and fixed his lesson.
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Jonathan
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Stuart Thiessen wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I am wondering though if there would be a
way to distinguish the floor handshapes without the finger gap (at
least where it is individual fingers. In printing, I don't have a
problem with the gap because the computer takes care of writing the
symbol. But, I think that it is easier to miswrite the finger gap when
handwriting. Just thinking about when we are doing quick writing or
notes in a class. it seems to me that we would want to have the symbol
be distinguishable enough that we don't have to worry about the finger
accidentally looking connected or something. Just a thought.
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Stuart
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On Jan 8, 2007, at 22:22, Valerie Sutton wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">SignWriting List
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January 8, 2007
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Stuart Thiessen wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">I worked on it as well during my lunch
hour today. I did have one question on page 5 of the PDF, and the
second sign down. For the index handshape there, I don't recall seeing
that in your list of handwriting shapes that you taught in this lesson.
I wondered if we should substitute a different sign or if you planned
to show that one but forgot. (I understand how that can happen.)
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Hello Stuart!
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Thanks for this feedback. You are right. It should have been there in
that lesson. I didn't really forget, but because it was so late at
night, and I was so tired, I thought maybe it would be obvious that it
was the same as the Printing...so I left it out. Now I see it confused
lots of people so that was the wrong call...
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So I will be posting this shortly...it is not on the web yet... but
here is an explanation...
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