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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Cherie – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>yes I understand your
intention and visualisation perfectly – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes this different
movementarrow seems perfect! Look at the hand a second time – smile <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Your hand”
isn’t still downward bit at an angle towards the body – the fingers
point at the body not downwards - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>what if you choose a
different symbol for the first phase “when the water follows the angle of
the roof down” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You may just pick the
symbol showing the 5 gingers hand from frontview at an angle fingers downward
back of hand up – that would nicely describe your concept – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In order to inform the reader
about the second phase – down straight – I personally would write the
second hand shape with this different hand orientation as well – <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
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w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Cherie Wren<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Samstag, 20. Januar 2007
01:44<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: [sw-l] Itsy Bitsy
Spider 1</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hmmm... I must need to
put some more in that sign. The 5 hand with trembling fingers is the
flowing water-- it follows the angle of the roof down a little ways, then
goes into the pipe and down straight. Where it changes from teh angle of
the roof into the pipe, the palm orientation changes. I think I sometimes
get carried away trying to put every detail into the writing, so I maybe went
too far the other way and didn't pput enough detail into this one? Do I
need to put -both- palm facings in? Should I use a different arrow that
shows the angle change? Arrow AND both palm facings?<br>
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cherie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original Message
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From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE><br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:17:32 PM<br>
Subject: AW: [sw-l] Itsy Bitsy Spider 1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Cherie – </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>have a look at the
attached sign – the right hand is written parallel to the floor, at an
angel and fingers are moving like trembling up and down – well now you
com down (in between the open left C-Hand and further down ) Perhaps you would
want to check a different hand orientation - more of fingers downward palm to
the side ?? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan ;-) </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner- <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName> [mailto: owner- <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName> ] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>cwren@doe.k12.ga.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007
21:12<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName>
; sutton@signwriting.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> [sw-l] Itsy Bitsy Spider
1</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The itsy
bitsy spider <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>crawled
up the water spout. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Down came
the rain <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>and
washed the spider out. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>ASL poetry nursery rhymes continued. Uses all 5ish
handshapes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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