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Hi Val, Steve and all the other sw-l members,<br>
I noticed that Cherie has been
doing very nice work with the rhymes lately. But it seems to it is bit
difficult yet
transferring the data back
in forth. The long links often get split up when sent by email. Then
it
has to be pasted back together before it´s pasted in the web browser.
I tried to figure out an easy way to send a bookmark. But my results
were
less than satisfactory. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
I guess it depends on the email servers our emails pass on our emails.
The only real way is to go to a site like <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tiny.cc/">http://www.tiny.cc/</a> and make
a new link like <a href="http://www.tiny.cc/Littlelamb">http://www.tiny.cc/Littlelamb</a><br>
So I tried to see if there was a better way of doing it. I had
thought of writting a plugging to show the SWML but that´s a bit beyond
me yet
at this point. So I started looking into xml and found the xslt the
xml
stylesheets to style the xml so the web browsers can display it. I
wrote two of them. One that only shows the symbols and one that also
shows the glosses. Once the stylesheet is mentioned in the swml file,
open the file with the browser. I got it working locally on my
computer with
Firefox. It isn´t working yet with Internet Explorer because I don´t
have a copy of the swml-s.dtd available. Internet Explorer isn´t as
forgiving as Firefox is. (I looked for it at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.signpuddle.com/swml/swml-s.dtd">http://www.signpuddle.com/swml/swml-s.dtd</a> but it isn't there!!! Does
anybody know where I can find swml-s.dtd???????????). I must admit
that it
doesn't format the sign as nicely as Signpuddle but can be a solution
to quickly show the contents of a swml file. It loads the sign the
first time (no need to refresh the web page for all of the signs to
show correctly). You could publish the swml on your website without
having to make a pdf version of it. When we put the stylesheet
on the web then the only change we will have to do to make it work is
add the following line to the SWML file: <br>
<?xml-stylesheet
type="text/xsl"
href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/swml.xslt">"http://signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/swml.xsl"</a>?>
<br>
or
wherever it´s stored on your website just after the <?xml
version="1.0"?> . The stylesheet seems to have to be stored on the
same website as the swml file. I tried having the swml file locally
and the stylesheet on the webserver but it didn´t work <span
class="moz-smiley-s2"><span> :-( </span></span>. But you can have
both files locally and it works just fine.
Then opened the swml file in the Web browser and voilá!, you can now
see
all the signs. Of course beforehand, we also need to change the
following line in the xsl file to point to the directory where the
IMWA png files are stored. These can be on the local computer or on any
website.<br>
<xsl:variable
name="IMWA-URI"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/IMWA/">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/IMWA/</a><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/IMWA/"></a></xsl:variable><br>
For unconnected people like myself we can keep a copy of the
stylesheet on our computer pointing to where the IMWA files are stored
on the computer. And adjust the line in the xml where the stylesheet
is kept. <br>
So once I got all of that working, I realized that I was missing
the biggest pieces of the puzzle. The version of SignText that I have
locally doesn't have any way to import the SWML file. So I went back
the keyboard and punched out yet another stylesheet (swml-load.xsl)
which loads the contents of the SWML file in signpuddle automagically.
Once again it's only a matter of referencing the stylesheet in the swml
file as above. But if the swml loads in SignPuddle, then there isn't
any real reason to use the swml.xsl which only displays the swml. But
I guess it could be used if the main reason for posting the swml is so
others can read it as opposed editing it ( the swml-load is best if we
want others to edit it).<br>
<br>
So these are my recomendations.<br>
<ol>
<li>Add the reference of the swml-load.xsl stylesheet to the SignText
swml output so that the swml files can load automatically in SignText
when opened in a web browser. Like this <?xml-stylesheet
type="text/xsl" href="swml-load.xsl"?> (the swml-load.xsl file will
have have to be in the same directory as the swml for this to work)<br>
</li>
<li>Add a function to the SignText to download the swml/xml file
instead of having to copy and paste it into a notepad document.</li>
</ol>
<br>
<br>
About point number 2. I tried find a good way to do this client side
in javascript. But it seems to me that javascript and browsers just
aren't up to the task yet. On one of my websites it uses a script
similar to the following to dynamically save a word document or a
spreadsheet to the user's computer. It in ASP VB.Net. I don't know
PHP but I'm sure that it should be able to do something similar. I
only left the parts that are relevant to saving a swml file.<br>
<br>
Protected Sub Export_Click(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArgs)<br>
<br>
Response.Clear()<br>
Response.AddHeader("content-disposition",
"attachmentfilename=FileName.xml")<br>
Response.Charset = ""<br>
Response.Cache.SetCacheability(HttpCacheability.NoCache)<br>
Response.ContentType = "application/xml"<br>
<br>
Response.Write(Me.swml.text)<br>
Response.End()<br>
<br>
End Sub<br>
<br>
Try the following link in your browser. Please let me know if it
worked for you or not and which browser you are using.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/humpty.xml">Cherie´s Humpty
Dumpty just the signs</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/humpty.xml">http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/humpty.xml</a><br>
<a href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/itsybitsySpider.xml">Cherie´s
Itsy Bitsy Spider, signs and gloss</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/itsybitsySpider.xml">http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/itsybitsySpider.xml</a><br>
<a href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/marylittlelamb.xml">Cherie´s
Mary had a little lamb, Load directly into SignText</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/marylittlelamb.xml">http://www25.brinkster.com/jdpage/marylittlelamb.xml</a><br>
<br>
Also try saving the attachments in one folder on your computer, then
opening them in your web browser.<br>
<br>
<br>
Looking forward to everybody's comments<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
Cherie Wren wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid45985.87287.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Yes, thats exactly what it means. The spider flips over, and goes right back up
the spout.
cherie
----- Original Message ----
From: Charles Butler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM"><chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:32:33 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] itsy bitsy spider 2 again
Not sure of next to the last sign in the second column. Are you trying to say
that the wiggling spider turns over and then crawls away to go back up the
waterspout. This is really a fun nursery rhyme.
Charles
*/cwren@doe.k12.ga.us/* wrote:
Redid "out came the sun", hope fully fixed some hand facings?
For the last nod on 'again' is there any way to show that it isn't a
standard nod? Its a slower big up-nod, then a faster down-nod... does that
make sense?
cherie
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