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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Steve Slevinski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 29. Januar 2007
22:59<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: [sw-l] Comment
and feedback for SignPuddle 1.5</span></font><font color=black><span
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Stefan,<br>
<br>
Yes, this will be solved in the near future, but not yet...<br>
<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</xml><![endif]--></u1:SmartTagType>Hi Steve ... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes – you are a
genius ! – <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am so impressed –
and I have not got the slightest idea how you can achieve all these features. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Let me ask one question
– <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So far we are not able to
use the typical Umlaut letters as we need them in German spoken language
“ae” = ä <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We need the special sign
for sz the “ß” as well <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a chance in the
long run that you can fix that? <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Would be great! <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In order to work right
now with SignPuddle I have to write the words with misspellings – some
students got confused – nothing to worry about but nevertheless ... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Congrats <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>and all the best and a
big Thank you for all what you are doing for us!! <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:windowtext'> <st1:PersonName u4:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName u4:st="on"><a
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Steve Slevinski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 29. Januar 2007
21:37<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName u4:st="on"><a
href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Comment and
feedback for SignPuddle 1.5</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Jonathan,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the feedback. <br>
<br>
I'm currently putting the export button back in. It's changed in that it
now exports SBML (SignBank markup language). The new version of SignBank
coming out in March can import SBML. I'll explain more below.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure how the import will work. It may be automated, but that's
not really needed just yet. Anyone with access to the file system can
import and export directly. PocketPuddle users can do this
themselves. And I'll be available to help anyone with a private puddle
through Val's SignBank.org website.<br>
<br>
By tomorrow, 2 additional features will be available on the SignPuddle 1.5
demo. The first is image/video upload for individuals signs. <br>
<br>
The second is the inclusion of the SignSpelling Sequence column.
This is required for sorting signs properly. Read about it online (<a
href="http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0145-SignSpelling-2004.pdf">http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0145-SignSpelling-2004.pdf</a>).<br>
<br>
Back to SBML...<br>
The SBML import into SignBank will be really amazing. You can do all of
the initial data entry with SignPuddle and you can do all of the presentation
with SignBank. SBML contains information for a sign's appearance and it's
sorting. I've attached the sbml.dtd.<br>
<br>
For sharing, SignPuddle 1.5 still has links to email. It's the easiest
way to share.<br>
<br>
For importing, SignPuddle 1.5 is compatible with SignPuddle 1.0, so any
existing SignPuddle dictionary can be used. although I do need to update the
SignPuddle 1.0 export routine. I've done this by hand for the ASL
dictionary, so tomorrow we'll see over 6000 signs in SignPuddle 1.5.<br>
<br>
Please let me know any specific feature requests and I'll see what I can do.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
Jonathan wrote: <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Steve,<br>
I haven´t been able to test out SignPuddle 1.5 fully because
I´m not connected to the Internet very much at a time so the on line
applications are a bit difficult for me. But I didn´t have a quick look
around. Something I didn´t see was the SWML or Import/Export
buttons. Did you remove them from this version? I think that it
would be important to have them as they should be the best option for sharing
what we have written. I have seen user posting the URL but it seems to
get split up so readily in the emails.<br>
Not needing to use the bookmarks to save the document and
being able to describe a sign with a document sound like very nice features!!!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
Steve Slevinski wrote: <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi List, <br>
<br>
I've been busy working on SignPuddle 2. It's going well, however many people
like the original SignPuddle, so I created a special version that will be
available on the PocketPuddle. It's called SignPuddle 1.5 and I have a
demo version available online. <br>
<a href="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5">http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5</a>
<br>
<br>
It works almost exactly like the original SignPuddle, but it has several major
enhancements. <br>
<br>
First, it is easy to create new puddles. All you need to do is enter a
title, subdirectory name, and select a graphic icon(gif or png). <br>
<br>
Second, there is no longer a special dictionary editors page and no need to log
in. Signs can be edited from any page. <br>
<br>
Third, SignText has been integrated with SignPuddle. In fact, each sign
can have a SignText document. You can use SignPuddle to organize SignText
documents, or you can use SignText documents to describe any sign in sign
language. There is no need to use bookmarks, just save the document the
same way you save a sign. <br>
<br>
Forth, the Translation feature creates a SignText document that can be saved to
any puddle. However, it no longer does the automatic finger spelling. <br>
<br>
I'm very excited for this new version. I'd appreciate any feedback or
comment. <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
-Steve <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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