<div>Again, going back to both formal and informal writing, a question.</div> <div> </div> <div>In terms of minimal pairs is there an instance where:</div> <div> </div> <div>1) Writing the two hands moving on the same path, with a common arc is going to be misinterpreted as two hands together on top of each other? </div> <div> </div> <div>2) I can understand in the case of "way" compared to "dive" but I am trying understand why "endure" requires two arrows. What would be the difference, in actual movement, between a two hand separate arrow solution and a one arrow with an arc solution. The thumbs actually mark a single path through space. </div> <div> </div> <div>Charles</div> <div> </div> <div><IMG alt=way src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/way.png" align=middle border=0> WAY <IMG alt=dive src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/dive.png" align=middle
border=0> DIVE <IMG alt=continue src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/continue.png" align=middle border=0> CONTINUE <IMG alt=continue_6 src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/continue_6.png" align=middle border=0> CONTINUE <IMG alt=continue_4 src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/continue_4.png" align=middle border=0> CONTINUE</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">SignWriting List<BR>February 14, 2007<BR><BR>Hello Adam and Everyone!<BR>I just returned to my office, so I will prepare some diagrams on <BR>Movement Paths...I think it is great to discuss this!<BR><BR>It is understandable that you had that misunderstanding, Adam. In the <BR>past I taught the General Arrow saying that they
are moving as a <BR>unit...because they are...so I have used that phrase myself...but <BR>what I didn't explain is that it is more than just moving as a <BR>unit...They are moving as a unit PLUS they are also moving so that <BR>one hand's path writes directly on top of the other hand's path...so <BR>the white path blends with the black path which becomes both, or <BR>general (an overlapping path).<BR><BR>That was the reason the General Arrow developed...because one arrow <BR>was writing on top of the other and we had no other choice...the <BR>black and white blended with each other...<BR><BR>This is only true for SignWriting Printing (the formal writing for <BR>publishing)...<BR><BR>When writing by hand, such detail may not always be necessary...In <BR>the Shorthand, for example, there are no arrowheads at all...<BR><BR>I will try to create a web page today explaining this better...so I <BR>will work on this eLesson on the web now... and will write again in a <BR>few hours
when it is posted...<BR><BR>Val ;-)<BR><BR><BR>PS. We have the most sunny beautiful Spring weather here in San Diego <BR>today. I only wish the rest of the world could enjoy the sunshine <BR>with me!<BR><BR>---------<BR><BR><BR>On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Adam Frost wrote:<BR><BR>> Wow! I did not know that I misunderstood that rule. I thought that the<BR>> general arrowhead was for when both hands move together as a unit.<BR>> (Probably like many others. Smile.) Now I think understand what the<BR>> rule mean. You said it is for when you would have two arrow<BR>> overlapping. So for the sign continue, the path (black and white<BR>> arrows) for each hand do not over lap, so the general arrowhead is not<BR>> used. Now my question is if you were to write continue from the side<BR>> view (purely hypertheotical of course), then the general arrow would<BR>> be used? And would that still be correct if the two hands were not<BR>> touching (ie as in
the sign for way)? Just trying to see if I<BR>> understand this rule correctly. :-)<BR>><BR>> Adam<BR>><BR>><BR>> On 2/14/07, Valerie Sutton <SIGNWRITING@MAC.COM>wrote:<BR>>> SignWriting List<BR>>> February 14, 2007<BR>>><BR>>> The General Arrowhead<BR>>> WHEN TWO MOVEMENT PATHS WRITE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER (BLEND)<BR>>><BR>>> The Movement Path of the right hand, writes on top of the Movement<BR>>> Path of the left hand, creating a blend of the two arrows. This<BR>>> creates a General Arrowhead. The blended arrow is neither right nor<BR>>> left...it is both.<BR>>><BR>>> Imagine placing your right hand in a can of black paint. It is now<BR>>> dripping with black paint.<BR>>><BR>>> Imagine placing your left hand in a can of white paint. It is not<BR>>> dripping with white paint.<BR>>><BR>>> Your two hands move in space. As they move, they paint Movement
Paths<BR>>> in space. The left hand paints white Movement Paths. The right hand<BR>>> paints black Movement Paths.<BR>>><BR>>> But what happens when the Right Movement Path paints on top of the<BR>>> Left Movement Path?<BR>>><BR>>> In those cases, you write a General Arrowhead.<BR>>><BR>>> The General Arrowhead never meant Parallel Paths. It always meant<BR>>> Blended Paths. There is a difference.<BR>>><BR>>> I can show you examples later today....Unfortunately I have to go to<BR>>> an appointment again and must run!<BR>>><BR>>> Talk to you all later -<BR>>><BR>>> Val ;-)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>