<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Many thanks for this answer... I was really confused about these 2 symbols<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>thanks for your explanation.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Anny<BR><DIV><DIV>Le 10 avr. 07 à 18:43, Adam Frost a écrit :</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">These symbols are timing symbols. This first one <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> is for simultaneous movement (happening at the same time). The second <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> is alternating (moving in opposite directions). So except that the timing symbols are upside down, VELO1 VELO2 and VELO4 are great. It is up to you which one to choose. VELO3 is written well, but the movement is not what you want. The hands are going in the same direction (unless I am reading it wrong). So help as to which one to choose. You hit it right on the money that VELO1 is the simplest and VELO4 is the hardest in both the view of writing. However, for reading, VELO2 has proved to be the easiest. So that is just some things for you to think about when making your choice between the different writings. <BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>PS Sorry that it took so long to reply. I must have skipped it, and I am surprised that there wasn't anyone else who answered your question.<BR><BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 4/9/07, <B class="gmail_sendername"> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod</B> <<A href="mailto:acpg@vtxnet.ch">acpg@vtxnet.ch</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <DIV style="">Val<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I need your help on the following symbols:<SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> /<SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV> I wrote these 4 versions of the sign /BICYCLE/ (/VELO/ in french)</DIV><DIV><SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> VELO1 (seems fine to me and is simple!)</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>then if we add the symbols <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> /<SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> whithout changing the arrows.... woulod we write</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> VELO2 </DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>OR<BR><DIV> <SPAN style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"> <DIV><SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN>VELO3 </DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I think in some cases... using the <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> /<SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> on top of the arrows gives the informations twice....... I'm wondering if when we use <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> the arrows should be written the same.... and that adding the <SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN> makes it possible to understand that hands move together in an opposite direction like in the following sign:</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><SPAN><DIV><image.php.png></DIV></SPAN>VELO4 (is this writing possible ???) seems harder to read to me! </DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>what would you suggest... and could you explain exactly when to use these 2 symbols in connection with the arrows?</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Thanks </DIV><DIV>Anny</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod </DIV><DIV>ruelle des chambres chaudes 1</DIV><DIV>1271 Givrins</DIV><DIV>Tel ++41/22.362.52.37</DIV><DIV>Fax ++41/22.362.52.66</DIV><DIV>mail: <A href="mailto:acpg@vtxnet.ch" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> acpg@vtxnet.ch</A></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><BR></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><BR clear="all"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod</DIV><DIV>ruelle des chambres chaudes 1</DIV><DIV>1271 Givrins</DIV><DIV>Tel ++41/22.362.52.37</DIV><DIV>Fax ++41/22.362.52.66</DIV><DIV>mail: <A href="mailto:acpg@vtxnet.ch">acpg@vtxnet.ch</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>