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SignWriting List<br>
April 13, 2007<br>
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Hello Kelly Jo, Antonio Carlos and Stuart!<br>
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Great discussion! I personally agree with videos written with <br>
Receptive SignWriting, only because that was the way I first started <br>
with SignWriting personally...I was writing from videotape so it was <br>
natural for me to write exactly as it was signed on the video...that <br>
was how SignWriting started out and that is why it was Receptive for <br>
the first decade of SignWriting use...<br>
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When the Deaf writers requested the change to Expressive, of course <br>
my first argument came to mind, that it would no longer work as well <br>
with videotape transcription...but it was so exciting to see people <br>
really writing expressively in their own language, that it was clear <br>
that when not writing from videotape, the Expressive was the way to <br>
go...<br>
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But there is no reason that we could not caption videos in Receptive <br>
SignWriting...that could be an exception, since it would match the <br>
captioning with the signing on the video...<br>
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Since it is so easy for someone like myself to switch the document <br>
from Expressive to Receptive, I would suggest that rather than <br>
creating new software for that process right now, let me teach you <br>
all how to do it...There are some symbols that are not an exact <br>
switch...so programming it right now is not necessary and would take <br>
some experience before we know all the ins and outs...<br>
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The way to test this, is if Cherie Wren can help me find the correct <br>
document that really matches the video of Little Miss Muffet (can you <br>
point me to it, Cherie?) and if it is already in SignText, then I can <br>
duplicate that exact document and prepare a Receptive version of it <br>
and show it to you...I can send it to the List...<br>
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Then we will need James Short, or Adam Frost, to help us put it on <br>
the video again, to see which version we prefer...Recpetive or <br>
Expressive?...<br>
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This will be a great experiment!<br>
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Val ;-)<br>
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On Apr 13, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Thiessen wrote:<br>
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> I wonder ... Valerie and Steve, I am just throwing this off the top
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> of my head, but would it be possible for the change in perspective
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> between expressive and receptive to be computer managed? For
the <br>
> hands, it would just be a matter of reversing white and black, <br>
> correct? What is the impact on other symbols? Is that worth
<br>
> something to explore where we can write things expressively like we
<br>
> prefer for reading, but have a way for the computer to output in <br>
> receptive mode if needed?<br>
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> I can see where signs that are using the top down view would not be
<br>
> able to handle this, but don't we usually have a head symbol that
<br>
> represents the top-down view? The converter that manages the switch
<br>
> in perspectives could ignore signs that incorporate symbols that <br>
> use the top down view.<br>
><br>
> Just an off the top of my head thought. I saw this email and just
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> thought I would throw it out. Perhaps further analysis will show <br>
> that it is not really possible. If so, oh well. :)<br>
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> Stuart<br>
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> On Apr 13, 2007, at 11:30, rocha@ATLAS.UCPEL.TCHE.BR wrote:<br>
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>> Hi everybody,<br>
>><br>
>> Just to let you know I think it would be much better to
caption the<br>
>> video in the receptive mode. It seems it would be much easier
to<br>
>> assimilate the writing to the images.<br>
>><br>
>> All the best,<br>
>><br>
>> Antônio Carlos<br>
>><br>
>> P.S.: sometimes I manage to get time to read some messages! :-)<br>
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>>> I just watched the video - I love it!!! :-) I've thought
of the<br>
>>> possibility<br>
>>> of SW captioning, but I hadn't gotten as far as actually figuring
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>>> out how<br>
>>> to<br>
>>> do it... it looks great to me!<br>
>>><br>
>>> The only problem I had was when the caption hid one of the
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>>> signer's hands.<br>
>>> Otherwise, it looks good to me.<br>
>>><br>
>>> KJ<br>
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