Of these 4 variations, I'd go for 4.<br><br>Charles<br><br><br><b><i>Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.E-MailFormatvorlage17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.E-MailFormatvorlage19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </o:SmartTagType><div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">I am sorry I attached a graphic with an unknown format – here another try<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Stefan Wöhrmann</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 1. Mai 2007 23:47<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b> AW: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="FR">Hi Adam, Charles, Valerie, Tini ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="FR"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Adam wrote : “Having seen Kelly Jo sign her name to me, I would write the fingerspelling KJ on the arm with a brush on top of the J to say that the J brushes the arm.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Well that is the difference – big smile – you have seen the performance – and now you can explain the idea ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">I played around with several variations – what I understand is that there is a decision between two different rotations – parallel to the wall – or parallel to the floor. Both options are possible – <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">When I hesitated to read the sign fluently I could not imagine that you want the pinky down and the forearm on top – just as Valerie explained in her graphic. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">And the rason that I comment on this spelling is just to learn – just as Anny said – I am happy to learn. I want to undestand. And reading unknown movement description is the best way to do that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">L.I.F.E <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">In the end it is up to you Kelly to express your feeling about the spelling-discussion and your opinion ... smile! <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB">Stefan ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB"> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenc<span lang="DE">iacc.edu</span></st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName><span lang="DE"> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">owner-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Adam Frost<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 1. Mai 2007 21:43<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] Sign Names in SignWriting ;-)</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The only problems that I have with the original spelling is 1)The contact symbols break the point of contact, and 2)The I handshape is at an awkward position being pinky down and palm out. Having seen Kelly Jo sign her name to me, I would write the fingerspelling KJ on the arm with a brush on top of the J to say that the J brushes the arm. I didn't place a star on top of the K, but it could have been put there if the touch was really important. I personally think that using the fingerspelling gives ease to reading because the fingerspelling are fairly standard in SW and that is what this is. And Charles, to get the arms, what I did was I got the regular joined upper arm and forearm, and added another forearm to make it longer to fit all of the symbols. <br> <br> Adam<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmailquote"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">On 5/1/07, <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Charles Butler</span></b> <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">I don't seem to be able to get big enough upper arms and forearms in the Sign Puddle that are clearly identified as upper arms and forearms by the click and point method. How does this look. This way one knows where the action is happening by the arm locator, and then the handshape moves as appropriate. </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><img id="_x0000_i1025"
src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=06-01-005-01-03-04,58,34,01-03-018-01-03-01,87,45,02-01-001-01-01-01,104,81,01-06-008-01-03-05,127,62,02-08-013-01-01-03,121,100,02-01-001-01-01-07,126,84," border="0" height="91" width="97"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">KJNameSign</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> </div> </blockquote><br>