Valerie, this is great, it really did clarify this discussion in a major way. When fingerspelling turns to signatures, it really changes orientation.<br><br>It was like your discovery of the "autonomic" change that happens with signs like "1989" where without looking at a video a person "thinks" that they sign all the numbers upright, when the 8 tends to flip over because of rhythm.<br><br><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-09-002-01-03-01,146,106,02-06-007-01-01-04,69,101,01-09-002-01-03-01,94,105,01-08-002-01-02-01,118,107,01-10-001-01-01-03,54,111,"><div><b>1989</b><br>nineteen eighty nine</div><br><br><b><i>Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> SignWriting List<br>May 2, 2007<br><br>> kjoanne403@hotmail.com wrote:<br>> Here are my two best suggestions for rewriting my name sign... I <br>>
personally like the first one best. Our discussion on the list got <br>> me re-evaluating how I see the sign... I always look at it from the <br>> top, so I think the top-view handshapes are the most appropriate. I <br>> may have used the wrong rotation symbol again on the second sign... <br>> I'm not sure... but those are the more appropriate palm facings if <br>> you're looking at it from the front view. (I think...) ;-)<br>----------------<br><br><br>Hello Kelly Jo!<br><br>and hello to Stefan, Charles, Anny, Adam and everyone who contributed <br>yesterday ;-)<br><br>Thank you for this message, Kelly Jo, showing us the new versions of <br>your name sign!<br><br>And thanks to everyone yesterday for a lively and interesting <br>discussion...I really enjoyed it ;-)<br><br>I appreciate everyone's comments and I learned from them ;-)<br><br>For me ... I like your two new versions (see pasted below)... The <br>palm facing is much easier to read for me
;-)<br><br>The white palm is what is seen from the Front View in the second one, <br>and the first one is showing the overhead view of the white palm as <br>the second ending position of the J movement ...and the rotation <br>symbols are good too ;-) For me these are easier to read and produce!!<br><br><br>If the second one is showing the beginning position of the J <br>movement, then normally, the Rotation Symbol would be placed after <br>the beginning position...like this...(see below)...which is similar <br>to the standard way we write J when we are writing just <br>fingerspelling...but I am not asking you to change anything...just <br>giving you feedback, and whatever you choose is fine...:-)<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Thanks again for sharing with us...<br><br>and thank you Stefan, for creating the chart with our Sign Names!...I <br>hope you can post the chart with some photos to the List when you <br>have a chance...it will be fun to see the chart ...it
looks great...;-)<br><br>Val ;-)<br><br></blockquote><br>