I have to go with the Deafies here, it's a "D" hand with the index closing to the thumb. There may be a difference between California sign and Gallaudet sign, but this is certainly the classic "do-do" sign I have seen on the East Coast.<br><br>Charles<br><br><br><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/do.png" alt="do" align="middle" border="0"> <br><br><b><i>"K.J. Boal" <kjoanne403@HOTMAIL.COM></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br><br>>From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting@MAC.COM><br>>Reply-To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>>Subject: Re: [sw-l] DO or DO-DO?<br>>Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:21:26 -0700<br>><br>>This is one handshape that is useful for the ending position of a sign <br>>like DO-DO...<br>><br>>it gives a circle base, like the letter D, but it also gives the angle
of <br>>the finger at the end of the movement<br>><br>>Just a thought...it would mean that all the other fingers are in a circle, <br>>not a fist...<br>><br><br><br>><< Picture5.png >><br><br>Actually, I have to disagree there... the ending position is definitely a <br>closed index and thumb, but this shape and the constructed shape you <br>mentioned in your last message both show the index not touching the thumb at <br>all. I would have trouble reading that.<br><br>Problem is, in natural signing all the fingers except the index are in a <br>relaxed fist, which as far as I know isn't represented in the IMWA. No <br>matter how you look at it, it's not possible with this symbol set to <br>represent exactly what is happening... we have to look at what a native <br>signer thinks is happening, just like in writing a spoken language we have <br>to look at what the native speaker thinks a word sounds like and not <br>necessarily what is actually
said. (I can give examples, if anyone would <br>like...)<br><br>Judging by the entries in the SignPuddle dictionary, we're pretty evenly <br>split as to whether it looks more like a D-type hand or a fist-type hand...<br><br>Thoughts and comments?<br>KJ<br><br>_________________________________________________________________<br>Win a webcam! Nominate your friend’s Windows Live Space in the Windows Live <br>Spaces Sweetest Space Contest and you both could win! <br>http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/sweetestspace/default.aspx<br><br><br></signwriting@MAC.COM></blockquote><br>