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Hi Sandy,<br>
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The SignWriting alphabet uses 3 colors: black, white and transparent.
This information needs to be part of the SVG or Image. <br>
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One standard Val and I have been using regards white palms. Here's how
the base ten hand shape looks. The palms are filled white as well as
the overhead line break.<br>
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<img src="cid:part1.03040605.03030500@signpuddle.net" alt=""><br>
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Programs can not figure this out properly.<br>
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The current IMWA does not have all of the palms filled. This should be
fixed with the International SignWriting Alphabet when they are
renumbered and redone in SVG. I think the contact symbols need to be
renumbered... along with some other.<br>
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The center of each symbol also need to be know for rotation.
SignPuddle doesn't rotate properly. <br>
<br>
I can see how a single SVG file could contain information all 96
handshapes and variations. (To reduce the number of files, I'm
currently packing all 96 pngs into one file as well).<br>
<br>
I'm guessing the SVG would need to know.<br>
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Base handshape: square<br>
Finger strokes: thumb<br>
Palm area: solid white square<br>
Half filled area: black rectangle<br>
Overhead line break: thick white line<br>
Center of symbol: palm's center?<br>
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With this information, we could build any of the 96 variations to any
scale. Printing with the "I SW A" in SVG format is going to be great...<br>
<br>
This could open all kinds of SignMaker improvements. Instead of
writing with the Build Format and the SSS id numbers, we could write in
SVG. <br>
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However with proper writing in lanes, additional complications are
added. For each sign we need to know the head's center of a sign.
This information will need to be included in a signs SVG data.<br>
<br>
Fun stuff. I like the editor ideas.<br>
-Steve<br>
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Sandy Fleming wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 15:11 -0300, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:machado@softwarelivre.org">machado@softwarelivre.org</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Try these: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.softwarelivre.org/~machado/SSS-2004svg/">http://www.softwarelivre.org/~machado/SSS-2004svg/</a> or
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.softwarelivre.org/~machado/SSS-2004svg.tar.gz">http://www.softwarelivre.org/~machado/SSS-2004svg.tar.gz</a>
Its full set of sss2004. By full I mean no flips or rotations. but the
whole set.
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Machado,
I spent some time playing with a few of these SVG files yesterday,
seeing how they transformed and re-styled.
I was very impressed with the way they're done entirely as outlines to
the black parts, so that what are strokes in handwriting are filled
areas on the computer. This completely solves the scaling problem I
spoke about recently!
The only thing I'd (maybe) like to see done differently is that the
internal parts of some symbols (but not others) should be white rather
than transparent. But we'd have to decide which symbols and anyway this
could be solved by programming, I should think, so it's not a problem,
just a remark.
Something I'd like to do is to take all these files and arrange them
into database form, so that the paths can be looked up from the SSS
label. This way software would be able to look up the paths from the
symbols more easily, and the user wouldn't have to download all the
files. This is a good idea, isn't it? Or do you have a way of using the
symbols in a web page directly, that I don't know about?
Sandy
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