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Steve Slevinski wrote:
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Hi Gerard,<br>
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There are several variations of SWML. <br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><strong>1.
SWML-UCPel</strong>:
the original SWML Formats<br>
<strong>2. SWML-D</strong>: for WoordenBoek Online Dictionaries<br>
<strong>3. SWML-S</strong>: for SignPuddle Online Dictionaries<br>
<strong>4. SWDB</strong>: for UCPel Linguistic SignWriting Database</font><br>
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I believe Variations 1,2, and 4 use the old symbol sets. (either
sss-95 or sss-99).<br>
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I created SWML-S for the latest symbol set, SSS-2004 (or the IMWA).
The -S stands for simple. I initially looked at the SWML-UCPel, but
decided it was not an appropriate fit because it appeared too
complicated and it didn't use the latest symbol set. <br>
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SWML-S was created from scratch and only has basic information: signs
in lanes. The latest version is 1.2 I believe. It should probably be
cleaned up, but it's been working fine for SignPuddle and SignText so
I've left it alone. I'm working on a new SignText that will continue
to use SWML-S. <br>
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I'm also working on a SignText markup language that will include
SignWriting, Unicode, and graphics. It will be used for screen display
and PDF generation.<br>
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Hi Steve,<br>
What is the current inter program SignWriting XML format? I see
SignPuddle 1.5 has easier access to SBML than SWML-S.<br>
I have a couple comments about each of these formats. I hope that
they will be a small contribution to even better formats.<br>
The SWML-S at least the files that had the dictionaries looked like
this<br>
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<sign gloss="thousand_2"><br>
<gloss>thousand_2</gloss><br>
<symbol x="102" y="93">01-05-014-01-04-10</symbol><br>
<symbol x="103" y="82">02-01-001-01-01-01</symbol><br>
<symbol x="115" y="103">01-05-048-01-03-01</symbol><br>
</sign><br>
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The xsd program which figures out the XML structure from the an XML
chokes on the "gloss" as it is both an attribute and a tag. I managed
to work around it by doing a search and replace for one of them so that
they are distinct. Then it worked just fine. Another comment, I image
that the "gloss" tag was meant so that there could be several glosses
per sign. Is this right? If it is so then the "symbol" tags should be
withing the "gloss" tag or else we won't know which "symbol" tag
belongs to which "gloss" tag. It isn't enough that the "gloss" tag
come first. So my suggestion main suggestion is to keep the attributes
and tags named differently.<br>
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My other comment about SBML which I realized was made especially for
SignBank which I am sure works just fine. But SBML uses comma
separated values. Which are fine, I use them all them time. But I
feel that they are out of context in an XML file. As is I can load the
SBML into objects or a dataset but I still have to parse the build and
the sequence to get to the information. But if each comma separated
value has it's own tag, it will load just as fast into an object or
dataset and I don't have to do any parsing to get at the information.
So for a SignWriting exchange format, I strongly suggest staying away
from comma delimited strings.<br>
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When you have a prototype of any other SignWriting ML like the
STML, please feel free to post it so that we can give our two cents
worth.<br>
Jonathan<br>
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FYI,<br>
-Steve<br>
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GerardM wrote:
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cite="mid:41a006820705200211m29dea04cn66c7ba548561240d@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hoi,<br>
On my blog Phil Boswell asked about the SWML site.. it seems to have
gone.. do you have a new URL or is there a new place for this
information ??<br>
Thanks,<br>
Gerard<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/swml/swml01.html">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/swml/swml01.html</a>
leads to <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://swml.ucpel.tche.br/">http://swml.ucpel.tche.br/</a><br>
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