Just for additional information, this handshape is also used in Hebrew ritual. It is the hand that shows the Kaddish cup and it is called "the rose".<br><br>Charles Butler<br><br><br><b><i>Jason Hopkins <codenosher@YAHOO.COM></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">None of the fingers touch.<br><br>They should all be straight or at least comfortably straight. I don't think there is a difference between strait or slightly curved, but the signer 'thinks' they are straight, but it is much more natural curved. <br><br>The spacing between fingers seems to be equally distributed.<br><br>As the sign gets bigger, the fingers curve more. <br><br>I'm
not sure as to the sizes. I can check. The Swedish signer told me her language has this shape in three sizes, small (fingers touching), medium (as shown) and large.<br><br>-Jason<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM><br>To: List SignWriting <sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu><br>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:10:02 AM<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] South Korean handshape<br><br><div>Hi Steve and Jason!<br>Yes...this handshape will be a variation no matter what because it <br>has to be placed in-between two handshapes that already exist.<br><br>But Jason, Steve's question is a good one. If there are variations as <br>to the size of the diameter, I can place several different choices of <br>size of diameter as variations. This means you can click on the <br>Variations Key to get different
variations of size of that handshape:<br><br><br></div><div><br><br>The Variations Key, which stems from SignWriter DOS, and was re- <br>implemented by Steve, into SignPuddle, serves two functions. First, <br>it gives different sizes of symbols. Many of the Movement Arrows were <br>designed with a Small, Medium and Large Variations. Second, it <br>provides a way to insert new symbols, in-between existing symbols, so <br>the Sequence of symbols is in the correct order, but the ID numbers <br>of existing symbols do not have to be changed.<br><br>Val ;-)<br><br>-----------<br><br><br><br><br>On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Steve Slevinski wrote:<br><br>> Hi Val,<br>><br>> This might be a good place to use variations because Jason wrote <br>> "Korea seems to use it as a classifier, therefore, it can get <br>> bigger or smaller - the diameter changes."<br>><br>> Jason, can you
describe how small and large the diameter can be?<br>><br>> -Steve<br>><br>> Valerie Sutton wrote:<br>>> On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Jason Hopkins wrote:<br>>>> Just so you know, the index does not touch the thumb, it just <br>>>> looks that way :)<br>>>> I was told they use that handshape in Sweden, too. Korea seems <br>>>> to use it as a classifier, therefore, it can get bigger or <br>>>> smaller - the diameter changes.<br>>><br>>> My goodness! I assumed the index and thumb touched. Pictures are <br>>> not perfect either, are they?!<br>>><br>>> So these are just relaxed fingers in a slight curve, projected <br>>> forward...Do any fingers touch each other? Are the middle and ring <br>>> fingers touching on purpose?<br>>><br>>> And what about the space between the index and middle
fingers? Is <br>>> that important?<br>>><br>>> I assume this is a spread Angle-Oval that is curved and <br>>> relaxed...and no fingers touch each other...agreed?<br>>><br>>> Thank you, Jason!<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> <mime-attachment.jpeg><br><br></div></div><br></div></div><br> <hr size="1">Be a better Globetrotter. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48254/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=list&sid=396545469">Get better travel answers </a>from someone who knows.<br>Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. </blockquote><br>