<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I independently showed both Val's shapes then Charles' shapes to my friends. After taking a while, they both said Val's number 3. Then I showed them Charles' shapes. Both liked his front view without any discussion. After think a bit, they both agreed Charles' symbols were enough different from the others to clearly show the shape.<br><br>The only comment was the connection of the fingers to the base should be a bit more evenly distrubuted.<br><br>-Jason<br>
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--></style><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Jason Hopkins <codenosher@YAHOO.COM><br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:21:02 AM<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] South Korean handshape<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I like these the best. I need to show them all to my Korean friend today and see which of all the symbols he thinks feel most natural. Also to my Swedish friend to see which works for her. <br><br>Thanks for all the help. <br><br>-Jason<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM><br>To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:01:54
AM<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] South Korean handshape<br><br>Try this one, comparing to some of the other handshapes that use fingers pointed at the reader, it's hard to show accurately. The more I look at it, the more I think that
the symbol 01-05-008 Five Fingers Hinge is already in the system.<br><br><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-05-011-01-06-07,78,109,01-05-050-01-01-01,98,101,01-05-008-01-01-09,98,50,02-03-001-01-01-01,104,81,"><b>light from sunrise (written by Kim)<br><br></b><img src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=01-05-035-01-05-09,111,40,01-05-008-01-05-16,134,8,02-03-001-02-01-05,134,59,02-01-001-01-01-02,134,40,01-05-050-01-01-07,130,95,"><div><b>gone (Kim from Boston)</b></div><div><br></div><div><b>If one moves the hand either up or down, it forms that rose shape that we seem to be talking about.</b></div><div><br></div><div><b>Charles</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><br><img alt=""><img alt=""><img alt=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span><br><br><b><i>Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On
Jun 29, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Charles Butler wrote:<br>> Number 6. It has the right feel to me. All the curved hands don't <br>> give the "feel" of the straight fingers, and the square hands don't <br>> picture the fingers actually coming together. The bull's eye is <br>> accurate, but very confusing.<br>><br>> Here is my rendering, based on the "M" handshape with four fingers, <br>> and adding a thumb.<br>><br>> Charles<br><br>Hello Charles!<br>It is great to get someone's feedback. Thank you. And thank you for <br>your suggestion for a new symbol. It looks good...<br><br>I didn't realize these were straight fingers. They look relaxed to me <br>in the photo. I thought this was a spread-oval, rather than a spread- <br>angle...<br><br>If you really like Number 6 below, then we already have that in the <br>current IMWA... Jason, if you want to use Number 6 below, I can show <br>you where it is located...It is in Group 5....but you could not
hold <br>a golf ball with number 6 below because there is too much space <br>between the thumb and fingers...<br><br>I just took a look at Jason's word description from his original <br>message, and he said they were holding a golf ball. That is why I <br>thought it was a curve...<br><br>So I was trying to hold a golf ball...that is how number 1, 3 or 4 <br>were developed...they are a side view of spread ovals..all fingers <br>are equally curved<br><br><br>Here is what Jason said:<br><br>><br>> On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Jason Hopkins wrote:<br>>> The first you can make the shape by extending all your fingers on <br>>> one hand, then draw the tips together to form a circle, but don't <br>>> touch. It is like holding a golf ball with your just your finger <br>>> tips while keeping the fingers extended, but flexed at the <br>>> proximal Knuckle.<br><br><br></blockquote><br></div><br></div></div><br>
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