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<body><div style="text-align: left;"><br></div><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">> From: signwriting@MAC.COM<br>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Rotation Symbols<br>> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:44:08 -0700<br>> To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<br>> <br>> Hi Kelly Jo -<br>> Thanks for your opinion. It is good to know that people like things <br>> the way they are. And of course more symbols is not the point...it is <br>> just more consistent as a whole, with the entire writing system...if <br>> all the Movement Arrows had 8 rotations. The programming problems we <br>> have with the Rotation Symbols can be fixed in some kind of special <br>> programming without adding more symbols, I suppose. But adding the <br>> basic 8 rotations would take away the need for special programming. <br>> And I personally use the diagonal Rotation Symbols myself, and I have <br>> missed it in the software over the years...<br><br>It's certainly possible that as I write more, I'll miss them too...<br><br>> But enough on that subject. It is good to know your opinions...thank <br>> you! It probably won't happen, and even if it does, it will be <br>> another year to two years at least...<br><br>Not a huge issue at this point, then! <img src="http://gfx1.mail.live.com/mail/w1/ltr/../emoticons/smile_wink.gif"><br> <br>> As you know, with SignWriter DOS, we could never have written the <br>> handshapes from Ethiopia. At least now, with SignPuddle, we can add <br>> new symbols when we want to, so we are lucky to be able to add new <br>> handshapes when requested.<br><br>Very true!!<br> <br>> And speaking of adding new handshapes...that is another case where we <br>> existed very well without the Flat Hand on the Diagonal Plane, or the <br>> In-between Palm Facings, or the different degrees of open and closed <br>> Angled hands, and many other detailed handshapes we have in the <br>> ISWA...so the truth is that it is up to the writer to choose how much <br>> detail they want to write with, and if they wish to use some detailed <br>> symbols from the ISWA, which is the equivalent to the IPA, then I <br>> guess it is for them to choose that...or not to choose that, as the <br>> case may be...<br>> <br>> I think it is great that you are choosing to write simply, Kelly Jo. <br>> That is the best for everyday use for sure...<br><br>I really believe it's the only way to handle everyday use. Unfortunately, I<br>think some of my "gut feelings" crept into "Sleeping Beauty" a few times<br>so that I changed the sign to what I would sign instead of what I saw<br>Darline do . . . fine for my own writing, but not so good for transcription!<br><img src="http://gfx1.mail.live.com/mail/w1/ltr/../emoticons/smile_confused.gif"><br><br>> By the way, there is no need for me to add bigger arrows either to <br>> the ISWA. That would create more additional symbols and I will never <br>> ever be able to get every variation of size needed, so just combining <br>> existing arrows, like this sign, is a way to do it without having to <br>> construct a new symbol...and I would assume that it is not jerky but <br>> the arrows are showing continuous movement from one arrow to the <br>> next... Val ;-)<br><br>True . . . but I think that works better with the wall-plane arrows than the<br>floor-plane arrows. What if you wanted to write a curved motion moving<br>away from you and then back, but covering a larger area than usual? The<br>single-stemmed arrows don't have the same rotations or variations as the <br>double-stemmed. How would you write, for example, a very large version<br>of ALL OF YOU?<br>KJ<br><br /><hr />Discover the new Windows Vista <a href='http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE' target='_new'>Learn more!</a></body>
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