I have to agree with Cherie here Valerie, you show the same movement with the arm forward and with the arm parallel to my body. Neither is a flex. The two movements you attach are both rotations. <br><br>A flex is like "flag" or "yes", is my attached movement correct? I've put the same index finger through a flex and a rotation with the arm forward. Is this right?<br><br>Charles<br><br><br><br><br><b><i>Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:<br>> If I hold my forearm out straight in front of me, and point my <br>> finger out straight, then turn it over so that the palm moves from <br>> facing to the side to facing down to the floor, that is a rotation. <br>> (like HAPPEN)<br>> If I do everything exactly the same, except my finger is now <br>> pointing to the
left (at a 90 degree angle to my arm) and the <br>> forearm moves exactly as it did above until the finger points <br>> down; thats a wrist flex, because my wrist is =flexed=, not <br>> because its flexing? Position trumps movement?<br><br>See attached for the sign for HAPPEN. The Rotation Symbol represents <br>three palm facings...from white to black. That one Rotation Symbol <br>means the movement starts following the numbers 1, 2 and 3. The thumb <br>paints the curve in space of the rotation. And the forearm stays in <br>one place. There is no traveling of the arm. The only movement is the <br>palm changing.<br><br><br><br>I did not see this movement in the sign we were discussing. Your arm <br>did not stay in one place. It moved down. And the palm facing did not <br>change. So it was a different movement.<br><br>The Rotation Symbol rotating the same but with the finger pointing <br>left, would look like this:<br><br><br>The wrist is locked with
Rotation Symbols. No flexing or bending of <br>the wrist can occur, so your description above is impossible if there <br>is a wrist bending down, that is another symbol...<br><br>Rotation Symbols do not write wrist flexes..<br><br>Sorry this has been so hard...<br><br>Thanks for all you are doing, Cherie...<br><br>Sooner or later it will start to make sense I believe...<br><br>Sorry to hear you have to use a wrist brace...<br><br>Val ;-)<br><br><br><br></blockquote><br>