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Valerie Sutton wrote:
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type="cite">Hello Stefan! <br>
Of course I know exactly what you mean...there are several handshapes
like that...I will try to explain the reason behind the "visual
irritation"... but not today...;-)) <br>
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Meanwhile, are you asking to change the thickening or darkening of the
fingers, depending on which one is closer to the chest? If the Index
Finger is closer to the chest then the Index would be darker? and if
the Middle Finger is closer to the chest, the Middle Finger that would
be darkened? <br>
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Like these examples that use thick or thin that way in Group 9, for the
thumbs in front of, or behind the index finger at an Angle? <br>
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I will try that...and that is fine in the Expressive, but to add a
second handshape just so the darkening reverses in the Receptive, is
another 96 symbols added to the ISWA...so maybe we can only add the
Expressive one...is that ok with you? I believe the EMA diagrams are
showing both Expressive and Receptive...which is terrific of course! <br>
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Val,<br>
The P and K hand doesn't show which side of the middle the thumb
is. Should the thumb be darkened to make it more explicit on which
side the thumb rests? In the Sutton Font it is darker already but not
in the IMWA.<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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Val ;-) <br>
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PS. The symbols above in the attached do not reverse for the Receptive
either, so the IMWA symbols are actually all based on the
Expressive...this detail has not been very obvious until now...most
people will memorize what the symbol represents and not worry about the
visual details is my guess...at least i hope so ;-) <br>
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On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote: <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Valerie, and sw-list <br>
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EMA – 24 handshape <br>
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well – as long as we will see this handshape it will remind us of the
given <br>
EMA handshape – smile – <br>
so it is a great symbol to guide the reader ... <br>
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I always get in trouble with all these handshape – symbols if the
index <br>
moves from the back of the hand line toward the palm-line ;-(( <br>
compared to the straight up index it seems strange and is somehow
visually <br>
iritating ... but I guess that you had to make this decision some time
in <br>
the past in order to get along ... <br>
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What do you think – can you or would you thicken the line for the <br>
middle-finger on the right side of the chart in order to indicate that
it is <br>
close to the body - just as you did with the thumb on the other side? <br>
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What do you think? <br>
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Stefan ;-) <br>
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Betreff: [sw-l] New Handshapes in the ISWA 2007 <br>
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SignWriting List <br>
July 2, 2007 <br>
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New Handshapes in the ISWA 2007 <br>
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Can you read this symbol? It was not an easy one!! <br>
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Thanks again to the photographer and illustrator helping us see it ;-))
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Could you read the symbol without the photo and illustration to back <br>
it up? <br>
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