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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I don´t know how to get out of the emaillist - you´ve got a idea?</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Thanks</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----<BR>Von: Adam Frost <adam@frostvillage.com><BR>An: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>Gesendet: Montag, den 9. Juli 2007, 22:46:22 Uhr<BR>Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Writing turning a doorknob<BR><BR>Cherie,<BR><BR>I just tried something to combine both the idea of turning a doorknob and WOW. Go to a doorknob and try to turn it. Notice that your arm rotates as if it is on a Rotisserie Rod. Now try to turn the doorknob from the other side of the of the door with your wrist bent at a 90 degree angle. Hard isn't it? In fact, I found it impossible to succeed. The only way that I could do it was by having my elbow fly all over the place. Here is a video of what I mean. <BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/9/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Adam Frost</B> <<A href="mailto:adam@frostvillage.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>adam@frostvillage.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Here is a writing of the turning of a doorknob. I also did two videos. One from front view and the other from the side view. Notice that the hand is bend at the wrist at a 45 degree angle. This is why it still can use the rotation symbol. This is what Val was talking about. <BR><SPAN class=sg><BR>Adam<BR><BR></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=q><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/9/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Valerie Sutton</B> <<A href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow> signwriting@mac.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><SPAN class=q>SignWriting List<BR>July 9, 2007<BR><BR>SignWriting List<BR>July 9, 2007<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN class=q>On Jul 9, 2007, at 5:18 AM, <A href="mailto:CWren@doe.k12.ga.us" target=_blank rel=nofollow>CWren@doe.k12.ga.us</A> wrote:<BR>> I'm trying to root around in my head to see if there is any sign<BR>> that might be an 'exception' but right now, I can't think of one.<BR>> Wait a minute... turning a doorknob-- how would you write that? <BR><BR>Of course, people can turn doorknobs in different ways. So there may<BR>be exceptions to this depending on one's anatomy...<BR><BR>But I personally write turning a doorknob as a Rotisserie Movement,<BR>because even though the wrist may be flexed because the hand is <BR>holding the doorknob, the movement is not from the wrist joint (when<BR>I do it anyway). The wrist joint when I do it, is
locked in its<BR>position, and the wrist joint itself remains solid, while the<BR>Rotisserie Movement occurs... <BR><BR>So if the Rotisserie pole is bent at the end, it is still a solid<BR>pole, because the wrist is locked. The whole arm-wrist-hand as a<BR>unit, rotates to turn the doorknob...<BR><BR>Val ;-)<BR></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV>
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