<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>Le 4 sept. 07 à 23:13, Valerie Sutton a écrit :</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">SignWriting List</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">September 4, 2007</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">How should I write this sign...... so that someone who reads it knows it's only a small movement ?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I've got the same problem with other signs which use small circular movement</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hello Anny!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks for this question and don't forget to also ask the question about the PocketPuddle to the List too when you have a chance. That way I don't need to answer it twice to others ;-))</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I will!! thanks</DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Regarding circle sizes, I personally use these dotted-lined circles (see attached). Those are the original circle symbols that have been used since 1974. Circles from the elbow or finger joints are dotted-lined circles and circles from the shoulder or wrist joints are solid lined circles...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The ones you chose are fine and can be read easily, but they are not graphically beautiful yet in the ISWA...I need to work on getting multiple bitmapped images in multiple sizes into the ISWA and I have not done that for years...people keep asking me for different size circles and I am never getting to it...</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I know how busy you are!!! I was just wondering if there's a symbol that could be added near the circle to mean "small"<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">so until I do, you can choose the dotted-lined circles that look a little bit smaller than the ones you chose, plus you could write it by hand at smaller sizes or construct one from multiple tiny little lines...there are tiny little curved lines under the limbs area if you really feel that the size is truly important for your document...</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok fine!!! the other solution for the people that don't know the size is to add a comment....!<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">But I do have a question about the palm facing...do you really want the overhead view of the side of the hand? That would be the same palm facing as the white palm front view...so I wonder why you wrote the palm facing differently that the white palms that are easier to write? <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>one of the signs comes from the belgian Puddle.... tha other one was written by Anita my friend (before seing the other model...) i know both palm facing mean the same in this specific situation.....<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Or do you want the side view of the palms facing to the floor? <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>No<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If yes, then those would not have a break at the knuckle joints...because it is parallel to your chest side view...smile...Val ;-)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>thansk for this quick answer!!!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>take care </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Anny<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR><SPAN><DIV><Burxelles.png></DIV></SPAN><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">____________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">SW-L SignWriting List</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Post Message</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List Archives and Help</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Change Email Settings</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l">http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod</DIV><DIV>ruelle des chambres chaudes 1</DIV><DIV>1271 Givrins</DIV><DIV>Tel ++41/22.362.52.37</DIV><DIV>Fax ++41/22.362.52.66</DIV><DIV>mail: <A href="mailto:acpg@vtxnet.ch">acpg@vtxnet.ch</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>