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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Charles, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>can you show to me the „top
view line“ or are you talking about the symbol showing two shoulders
left and right to the head – indicating the head seen from top down? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just curious about terms
and definitions of symbols <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Anyway I guess you want
to describe the hand palm facing the signer but not palm up – is that
correct? Do you always prefer the double stemmed arrow – even for left
and right movements --? I prefer the single stemmed arrow in this case<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:sw-l-bounces@majordomo.valenciacc.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Charles Butler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 23. Oktober
2007 04:35<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">SignWriting
List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: [sw-l] SignWriting
game from France...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This isn't top view. This is the NOSE line, not the top view
line. The hand faces the nose and then twists on the wrist a quarter
turn.<br>
<br>
Charles<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Adam Frost
<adam@frostvillage.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Shouldn't this be front
view rather than top view?<br>
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Adam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 10/22/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Charles
Butler</span></b> <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com
</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>He may need
"pee" and "shit". The French language (and I have
noticed, Portuguese, are much less body shy than English. ASL has signs
for both and uses them freely. I noticed in Brazilian grammar schools
that showing cartoons for hygiene was much less prudish than American
English. "Toilet" doesn't cover all the shades of meaning he
needs. "Nao urine do chao" :(don't pee on the floor) was
in almost all of the college and high school restrooms. <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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src="http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/image.php?build=03-05-001-01-01-01,89,25,01-03-019-01-04-01,133,28,02-01-001-01-01-01,109,37,02-03-001-04-01-03,139,67,"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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piss, urinate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>to urinate, expel urine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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width=12 height=11 id="_x0000_i1029"
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Source: Charles Butler <br>
Modified: October 22, 2007 15:50</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class=sg>Charles Butler</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<span class=e><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Valerie
Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">
signwriting@mac.com</a>></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SignWriting List</span></font></st1:PersonName><br>
October 22, 2007<br>
<br>
Hello everyone -<br>
As you know I live in San Diego, and San Diego has wild fires right <br>
now. My home is safe at the moment, but I do have some friends <br>
staying with us who had to evacuate their home...we are watching TV <br>
to see if their home will burn or not...it is an incredible <br>
experience which is a repeat of the Cedar fires back in 2003...when <br>
we went through something similar...<br>
<br>
Since I work out of my home, I am thinking through what hard drives <br>
to take with me if we have to evacuate too...but I doubt that will be <br>
necessary...The air is thick with smoke and raining ashes...<br>
<br>
Anyway, thank you, Yaelle, for your message below...<br>
<br>
Again, I need to ask you...what do you mean by English signwritings? <br>
British Sign Language, or Australian Sign Language, or American Sign <br>
Language?...all are different signed languages located in English- <br>
speaking countries...<br>
<br>
If you mean American Sign Language, then look under TOILET in the ASL <br>
SignPuddle...that might be the sign you are looking for...or BATHROOM <br>
maybe...<br>
<br>
Val ;-)<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Yaëlle wrote:<br>
<br>
> Yes Val, thank you for your indications<br>
><br>
> I found most of the signwritings, *I lack only WEE WEE *for now. Is <br>
> there an equivalent I dont know in English. I am very bad at <br>
> informatics... sorry !! I'll show you the entire game *English/ <br>
> signwritings *and the other languages as soon as thoses are finished. <br>
><br>
> Many blessings, to You and your Earth Team !!<br>
> Yaelle:)<br>
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