<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I thought the point simply was not "white" per se, but that the background color was used. So in the case of Kelly's writing, it should be black shading inside? That achieves the same effect as what you used as an example, Valerie. :-)<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Stuart</div><div><br><div><div>On 9 Nov 2007, at 23:09 , Adam Frost wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I think that there should be a way so that the fills can be white if needed so that the readability is better (ie when it is on a picture background, or when the hands are over each other), but you are right that when you have a dark background that the "white" fill should match the background. Maybe there is a way so that you can program the white fill to be the background color or "opposite" color to sign color. Steve? :-) <br><br>Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 9, 2007 8:52 PM, K.J. Boal <<a href="mailto:kjoanne403@hotmail.com">kjoanne403@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>You mean you're changing it so the palms are always white??? That's the part that looks wrong to me! I like the ones with palms that are the background colour. After all, if you were writing by hand on a piece of coloured paper, would you take a white pencil crayon to fill in the palms as well as the back of the hands? I wouldn't. I think I understand why you're doing it, in keeping with "palms lighter than the back of the hands" ... but what happens if you make the signs white? Won't this programming make the right hand palm-facing-you look identical to a left hand palm-facing-away? <br><br>Actually, I've just tried it . . . it really doesn't want to make the signs pure white, does it? (first picture) Okay, the next colour over to white, that one shows - and yes, it's almost impossible to tell that the top one is palm facing you, and the bottom one is looking at the back of your hand. Sorry, Val, but I think you might want to rethink . . . <br><br>KJ<br><br><br><hr>> From: <a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Background colour?<br>> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:21:36 -0800<br>> To: <a href="mailto:sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu" target="_blank"> sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>> <br>> On Nov 9, 2007, at 8:04 PM, K.J. Boal wrote:<br>> > By the way, I meant to ask this a moment ago before I got <br>> > sidetracked . . . ;-) What's going on with the palms here? The 1- <br>> > hand and closed-O hand both still have white in them for the palm, <br>> > but the Y-hands later on have changed the palm to match the <br>> > background. Did you know about that, Steve? It looks like it <br>> > works properly for most handshapes - and I do love the option!<br>> > KJ<br>> <br>> <br>> Hi Kelly Jo -<br>> That has to do with the ISWA symbols. I have already made all the <br>> handshapes with the proper white palms now in all the handshapes here <br>> on my local computer, but we have not installed the new ISWA yet into <br>> SignPuddle, so right now the old IMWA symbol set only has a few <br>> handshapes with the white palms...because at the time that the old <br>> IMWA was installed in SignPuddle, I hadn't finished making all the <br>> palms white yet...so when the new ISWA is released in January at the <br>> same time that Steve releases the new source code for SignText...at <br>> that time the new ISWA will be installed into SignPuddle and all the <br>> palms will be white...<br>> <br>> Although I have already fixed all the symbols to be white, it is an <br>> enormous job to install the symbols so they have to be installed all <br>> at once in January...<br>> <br>> So until then, live with it! ;-))<br>> <br>> But aren't these colors beautiful? Thank you, Steve, for this...I <br>> love looking at it...<br>> <br>> Val ;-) <br>> <br>> <br><br></div></div><hr>Have fun while connecting on Messenger! <a href="http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger" target="_blank">Click here to learn more.</a></div> <br><br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help <br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/</a><br><br>Change Email Settings<br><a href="http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l" target="_blank"> http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</a><br></blockquote></div><br> <br><br><br>____________________________________________<br><br>SW-L SignWriting List<br><br>Post Message<br><a href="mailto:SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu">SW-L@majordomo.valenciacc.edu</a><br><br>List Archives and Help<br>http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/<br><br>Change Email Settings<br>http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>