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<body class='hmmessage'>It doesn't matter to me . . . I like standardization, but I've never had a problem with the thumb angle either way.<BR>
KJ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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> From: signwriting@mac.com<BR>> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:02:30 -0800<BR>> To: sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu<BR>> CC: barbara.pennacchi@istc.cnr.it<BR>> Subject: [sw-l] ISWA Thumb Standardization?<BR>> <BR>> SignWriting List<BR>> November 17, 2007<BR>> <BR>> Dear SW List members -<BR>> <BR>> This coming week is a holiday week here in the US...we celebrate <BR>> Thanksgiving Day, on November 22nd. It is a big feast where we all <BR>> eat way too much....but say "thank you" for all our blessings...<BR>> <BR>> And truly, I feel blessed to have so many friends to work with, on <BR>> the SignWriting List...so a big THANK YOU to all of you ;-)<BR>> <BR>> So I am going to take the next week to try to finish the handshapes <BR>> in the ISWA...but I have one question for you...<BR>> <BR>> When fingers or thumbs are at an angle, they are written with a <BR>> diagonal line that matches the way it looks in real life... (see <BR>> attached)<BR>> <BR>> And if the thumb is stretched very hard to the side, it is oftentimes <BR>> written with a straight line to the side...<BR>> <BR>> People vary with their styles of signing, and also some hands cannot <BR>> stretch their thumbs completely side anyway...<BR>> <BR>> Over the years, the symbols that have a thumb to the side have been <BR>> inconsistent..sometimes the line is at an angle showing a more <BR>> relaxed thumb to the side, and other times we write it straight side, <BR>> like in the L hand...this never bothered me personally. But it has <BR>> bothered some other people and they have told me...<BR>> <BR>> When the thumb is touching another finger, it has to be at an angle <BR>> to reach that other finger, but when the thumb is totally by itself <BR>> to the side, it could be either straight or at an angle and it will <BR>> be read ok...<BR>> <BR>> So my question is...do you want me to make all the thumbs to the side <BR>> like the L Handshape? That would mean that the 3 Handshape would have <BR>> a straight line to the side rather than the relaxed angle it has <BR>> right now...<BR>> <BR>> I don't care myself, and if we leave it as it is, it is correct and <BR>> readable I feel...<BR>> <BR>> On the other hand, it can't hurt to have them consistent with the L <BR>> handshape...<BR>> <BR>> If we decide to make this change to be consistent, it may take me <BR>> some time to go in and change all the handshapes with the relaxed <BR>> thumbs, but at least if you can tell me your opinions now, I will <BR>> know what kind of work is before me ;-)<BR>> <BR>> Look at this chart...what is your opinion? Should the 3 Hand have a <BR>> thumb line like the L hand?<BR>> <BR>> Val ;-)<BR>> <BR>> <BR><BR><br /><hr />R U Ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5? <a href='http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger' target='_new'>Try it today!</a></body>
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