<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">Thanks, I will try this next.<br><div> </div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Rev. Ronald H. Dettloff, 20880 Ten Mile Road, St. Clair Shores, MI 48080</div><div>Other Web links: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://theshoreschurch.org/ME2/Audiences/Default.asp">http://theshoreschurch.org/ME2/Audiences/Default.asp</a> <strong><br></strong></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><div
style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Valerie Sutton <dac@signwriting.org><br>To: SignWriting List <sw-l@majordomo.valenciacc.edu><br>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:32:06 PM<br>Subject: Re: [sw-l] Sign Puddle problem<br><br>
SignWriting List<div>January 24, 2007</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Ron -<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>OK. I understand. Thank you for your second message...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Maybe ColumnMaker would work better for you?</div><div><br><div>In other words...I have been using another newer feature called ColumnMaker</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Have you tried ColumnMaker?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>...To use ColumnMaker, do not push the SignMail button at all...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>After you have added the document to SignPuddle, Instead of pushing the SignMail button, push the ColumnMaker button instead...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div> ColumnMaker is better I think...at least it works well for me...</div><div><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Meanwhile I am happy to help you step by step over the telephone - call me anytime! Or I will be happy to telephone you if you prefer...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>See the attached button screen capture...Val ;-)</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><img src="cid:1.3449835889@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com" height="555" width="488"></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 24, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Ronald Dettloff wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote
type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="margin: 0px;">Please note:<br><br>As you already know there are two different buttons when the user goes into Sign Mail, which have different results:<br><br>1. Print to PDF<br><br>2. PDF<br><br>I do not use # 2 because I do not want to make a PDF file at that point. By pushing #1 I am able to copy and
paste most of the signs without any problem. If I use #2 then all the signs are copied as a unit and I lose the ability to edit in Microsoft Word. After I am finished in M.S. I convert the final product to a PDF document for the general public.<br><br><br>But trying to follow what you are experiencing...</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;">I follow all the way up to the Add button...so now your document is added to SignPuddle. But instead of then pushing the SignMail button, what about pushing the ColumnMaker button? Then in ColumnMaker, you can copy and paste full columns into Microsoft Word as graphics files, without creating a PDF...</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Is that what you want to do? Or do you want to make a PDF? Because you could be copying and pasting the columns as graphics files directly to Microsoft
Word from ColumnMaker without making a PDF first...</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Look forward to hearing from you further...</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Val ;-)</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;">---------------</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0px;">On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Ronald Dettloff wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Very often when using Sign Puddle I have the following problem:<br><br>Translate<br>Update<br>Copy into which Sign Puddle<br>Reload current page<br>Save<br>Add<br>Sign Mail<br>Print to PDF<br><br>Copy and Paste into Microsoft Word (at this point, not always but often and up to three signs will not paste into my word processor. This is very annoying.<br><br>In order to get around the problem I have to re-paste the signs that did not transfer individually by:<br>clicking on PDF<br><br>(that loads makes the sign PDF, of which I copy and paste from Adobe to Microsoft)<br><br>What is the cause of this glitch? Why won't all the signs transfer together. The file we make saves fine on the Sign Bible site but not to my word processor. This is very time
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