<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">SignWriting List</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">February 14, 2008</font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:</font></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#000000"><div><strong><font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">You will find the attached diagram. Eyebrows, head and eyegaze are up at the same time. I see hard between eyebrows up and eyegaze up. </font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">You will check the sign "PEUT-h-q" (PEUT (English, can), h= haut (up) and q= question).</font></span></span></font></strong></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Do you have any suggestion (eyebrows up and eyegaze up) ? Regards, André</font></span></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Hello Andre and Everyone -</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thank you for this question. The Faces are a little tricky and it may be difficult for you to see... The Faces are designed so they can be moved one face on top of the other....you need to move the circles exactly on top of each other and it isn't that easy even for people with perfect sight...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>And when you place the circles exactly on top of each other, there are still times when the eyebrows will hit the eyegaze...you are right about that...The eyegaze symbols, at the moment, have to be written separately from the eyebrows or they hit each other...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>There are two ways to remedy this problem right now...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>1. write two Facial Circles, either side by side, or vertical one above the other....</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>or...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>2. choose not to write so much detail</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>When the new ISWA 2008 is released this year, there will be a third option...I am working on combination Faces, that combine some commonly used facial expression symbols into one Facial Circle, already pre-made for writers...we will see if those are useful or not, once they can be used...it will be interesting to see if it helps...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Please see attached diagram...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><img height="406" width="443" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:2F6B0369-6100-4A2A-A79B-C2611AB5B3BF"></div></div></div></div></body></html>