<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>March 18, 2008</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Hello Stephen and Vanessa!</div><div>Thank you for this excellent report, which I enjoyed reading. And thank you for sharing your teaching methods to the List. It helps all of us think through how to teach in the future.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I like very much, the method you are choosing. You are correct that if SignWriting is used for vocabulary lists, while people learn to sign, they learn SignWriting indirectly, and do not feel as overwhelmed as a formal course. Then when they naturally start asking questions about the symbols, they are really interested in your answers and can see the benefit of writing signs...It is a good approach...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>You can do the same with a simple piece of literature, like Goldilocks Level 2...which can be downloaded here:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><b>SignWriting Children's Stories</b></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/library/children/index.html">http://www.signwriting.org/library/children/index.html</a></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Even though your students are not children, they are at a basic level with SignWriting, and when they try to read a story for the first time, at first they guess a lot, but after awhile, with small explanations from their teacher, they start picking up on reading and it is amazing how fast the process can start to accelerate...</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">So that is another idea...find some literature and encourage experimental reading...</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Since you are a Church group, why not download the chapters already written from the Bible in ASL?...That is appropriate reading material!</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Go to this web page to choose versions of the Bible to download:</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><b>SignWriting Religious Literature</b></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/library/religion.html">http://www.signwriting.org/library/religion.html</a></div></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Val ;-)</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">---------------</div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Vanessa Jones wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hello all! <br><br>Thank you for your interest and comments! <br><br>Our lessons in both sign and SW have gone well for the past two weeks. So far, we are mainly using SW for review sheets to help the students remember how to pronounce the signs later. First we go through the lesson and introduce new signs. Then at the end of class we give them a handout with the signs in SW and the English word(s) equivalence. <br> <br>The students are picking up the sign writing. In the first class one student asked, "So is there a system behind this?" After answering an emphatic "yes!", we took the opportunity to explain orientation on the wall plane, four contact symbols (touch, brush, rub, and strike), and the up-down arrows vs the forward-back arrows. Our plan is to explain a few more symbols every week at the end of the sign language lesson. In this way we hope not to overwhelm the students as they are learning both sign and SW but at the same time we hope that SW will kind of sneak into their brain in a logical way. <br> <br>The next lesson we are planning a tour of the church and we will definitely have labels in SW on the items we will teach! That is a wonderful idea and we are looking forward to using it. <br><br>We will try to keep you guys updated! Thanks again for the ideas!<br> <br>Stephen and Vanessa <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style="">SignWriting List<div>March 10, 2008</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stephen and Vanessa!</div><div>Happy to know you are using SignWriting...How did your lessons go yesterday? ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>And I thought everyone's ideas were really good! I like writing the sign for DOOR on the door....</div> <div><br></div><div>The idea of writing signs for objects and placing the written sign on the object itself, has been used with success before...There are some teachers who say this method is very practical and the SignSpellings become easier for the students because they have seen the writing on a regular basis...</div> <div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 9, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Stephen Jones wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br> <br>Thanks all for the suggestions! Since this will be done at church the flashcards and signs on everything might work out really well. Also, thanks Kim for the feedback. We are going to be teaching this afternoon and will do our best to keep you updated on how the class responds. We are going to have around 20+ students. <br> <br>~Stephen Jones<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Charles Butler <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The Deaf Club of Pelotas has signs for everything in SW. Brazilian sign is fun.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Charles Butler</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><b><i>Thiessen Stuart <<a href="mailto:thiessenstuart@gmail.com" target="_blank">thiessenstuart@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I think this is a great idea!<br><br>One suggestion: Make flashcards of all your vocabulary and put it in <br>the classroom somewhere and remind your students that they can drill <br>themselves on the signs that way if they want. Using flashcards for <br> language study has always been helpful for me. :)<br><br>Another idea is to label common things around the room. Put the sign <br>"DOOR" on the door, etc. That can be another reinforcement that you <br>can use of the sign.<br> <br>Thanks,<br><br>Stuart<br><br>On 8 Mar 2008, at 12:56 , Stephen Jones wrote:<br><br>> Hello!<br>><br>> My wife, Vanessa, and I are going to teach conversational ASL at our <br>> church just an hour a week. We want to help the students (mostly <br> > adults) remember the signs we teach them and are therefore giving <br>> them a vocabulary sheet at the end of the lesson. The signs on the <br> > vocab sheet will be written in SW. This is the first time we have <br> > used SW to teach ASL and we were wondering if any of you have had <br>> any experience with this and had advice or suggestions to share. 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