<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>April 3, 2008</div><div><br><div><html><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:11 PM, dhouha mansouri wrote:</font></html><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">please i ask you if there is a way to order the symbols of sign in swml,i find that signspelling give me the sequence of symbols but no in ther order,is there any way</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">please i wait your answer</font></div></span></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hello Dhouha!</div><div>Thank you for this question.</div><div><br></div><div>There are two parts or steps to placing signs in the "alphabetical order" of SignWriting. Steve Slevinski calls SignWriting "the SignWriting Spatial Alphabet"...I love that term!</div><div><br></div><div>And all alphabets, whether they be for spoken languages or signed languages, follow these two steps, when placing words or signs in sequence:</div><div><br></div><div><b>1. SignSpelling Sequence</b></div><div>First, establish the order of the symbols within each individual word or sign. The SignSpelling must be established before you can go to the second step.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2. Sign-Symbol-Sequence (alphabetical order of symbols)</b></div><div>Once each individual sign has its own SignSpelling Sequence, then all the signs are sorted by the Sign-Symbol-Sequence. The symbols have a specific order in the SSS. All the signs that begin with the Index Finger come first in the dictionary, and so forth.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe you are asking for number 2 above...the Sign-Symbol-Sequence.</div><div><br></div><div>This web page has several documents you can download that list the Sign-Symbol-Sequence:</div><div><br></div><div><b>Symbol Documents IMWA 2004</b></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><a href="http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/IMWA-Symbols.html">http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/IMWA-Symbols.html</a></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Download Number 3 on that web page...</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><b>IMWA BaseSymbols</b></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0160-sss2004-IMWA.pdf">http://www.SignWriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0160-sss2004-IMWA.pdf</a></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Also, the Symbol Palette in SignMaker and SignText (see attached screen capture)...that Symbol Palette is in Sign-Symbol-Sequence. The sequence starts with the first symbol top-left corner, and goes down each column, left column first, etc...The first symbol in the SSS is the Index Finger...top left corner..click on it and the symbols underneath on the next layer of the Symbol Palette are listed in Sequence...</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><div><img height="615" width="324" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:C23475FC-06F8-4D4D-BBFE-A4051EDB6498"></div></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div></div></div></body></html>