<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>April 16, 2008</div><div><br><div><html>Steve Slevinski wrote:</html><html>Here's an example of what I can create with the current ASL puddle. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">I'm hoping that I can just use the basics and build from there. It should be possible to create a generic numbering system. ASL can be broken down into millions, thousands, and hundreds. Using 10,534 BC as an example, the software would write "10 thousand 5 hundred 34 before common era". It should be possible to include this information in 1 or more signs automatically. This system needs a maximum of 99 numbers plus the signs for million, thousand, and hundred, along with the "before common era" sign(s). Each numbering system should start with a clean puddle. We can use extracts from the current puddles.</span></html><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(20, 79, 174); -webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">We will need to create packages for sign language that localize the date/time information. The first package will be for ASL and provide the framework for additional languages. Date/Time localization will be part of the MediaWiki plugin.</span></div></span></blockquote><br></div><div>Hi Steve, Adam and everyone -</div><div>This will be wonderful of course...and let's do it for sure...and yes a generic numbering system can be developed just as long as we have the correct pieces in the database...</div><div><br></div><div>The only thing we have to be sure of, as I believe Stuart just mentioned, is that the end result is understandable by ASL signers who do not know what we are trying to write...we need to test it a little with ASL signers and be sure it is understandable...</div><div><br></div><div>I have found over the years that my knowledge of ASL simply is not good enough...so I need to leave the decision making, as to the exact signs that are chosen, to the ASL signers...<br></div><div><br></div><div>The only thing that I would like to suggest, is that we choose the easiest SignSpelling of each sign that is possible, if it doesn't hurt the understanding of the natural sign...sometimes in the Puddles we have many versions of the same sign written in several ways...some writings are more complicated than others, and if we choose the simplest version of each sign, it would be better for the date and time database I would assume...</div><div><br></div><div>For example, the number 16 is written in 6 ways in the dictionary. attached are two examples...in this case, these attached signs are actually two different signs...so which one will the database choose? Adam chose the latter one for his calendar, I would assume because it "felt like ASL"...</div><div><br></div><div>So we need to specify which signs will be used out of the choices in the current Puddles...</div><div><br></div><div><div><img height="112" width="88" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:1EAB0287-61EF-4F43-969A-319BB85C7A61"><img height="119" width="85" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:929B3BD9-B6B3-492D-AE1C-2C489FD77743"></div><div><br></div><div><div><img height="315" width="85" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:2C85616A-DE7D-4078-9ECE-E63C121D254D"></div></div></div></div></body></html>